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Kepa

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Heroic fighter dwarves are grumpuses
« on: September 12, 2006, 03:23:00 am »

Military heroes and legendary skill guards are a bunch of stubborn jerks.  There, I said it.

In one Dwarf Fortress game I got a bunch of swordmasters and a legendary axe dwarf.  They got to these positions by training as off-duty military and guards.  Then I was ready to fight the demons, so I tried to change them to military types so that I could  get them ready.

<Axey> I DUN WANNA MILITARY!  HEROES DO NOT WORK! (military assignment option doesn't even show up)

Same problem when I tried to make a swordmaster fortress guard into a royal guard, or a military master into a guard.  The military and guard assignments don't show up, because it says that heroes do not work.

It makes sense that you can't make a legendary axeman into a farmer.  It doesn't seem intentional that you can't make a guard into a military unit when you need to prepare for a big battle.

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karnot

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Re: Heroic fighter dwarves are grumpuses
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2006, 03:29:00 am »

What about royal guards ? Why should a legendary axeman be a common guard, when he can be so much more...right ?
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Kepa

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Re: Heroic fighter dwarves are grumpuses
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2006, 04:28:00 am »

That would make sense, if you could change legendary normal fortress guards into royal guards.  I think they're just accidentally too stubborn as a result of the bit that prevents them from being turned back into laborers.
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Aquillion

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Re: Heroic fighter dwarves are grumpuses
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2006, 08:38:00 pm »

What if you have a legendary mason or somesuch that later becomes a legendary axedwarf?  It seems odd that a dwarf who is so good at something would suddenly stop doing it altogether just because they're now a military hero.
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Kalle

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Re: Heroic fighter dwarves are grumpuses
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2006, 12:18:00 pm »

Another thing, since you can't even get to the menu, there is no way to assign a legendary warrior a couple of war dogs. At first I thought it also prevented changing his armor, but that seems to be doable fromt he military screen. In any case it would be nice to have those options back.
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Re: Heroic fighter dwarves are grumpuses
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2006, 04:36:00 pm »

I think this existed way back before pets or guards or anything like that and was just a mechanism for them to keep their favorite weapon.  It's out-moded now.
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