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[greenwatering]

do wrestlers with mining skill still use there pick in combat?

[Kofthefens]

I've trained up 3 legendary axedwarves in my fort, by using the official training method.It really works just fine, only took it 2.5 years.

[Elifre]

do wrestlers with mining skill still use there pick in combat?

If they're equipped with picks, yes.

[Zaphod728]

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1. It appeared that mounted goblins were trying to stay on their mounts even when the mounts were in cages. I don't know if this was what was going on, but i had a large number of goblins that just stayed in my false entrance, right on top of their mounts that were in cages.

2. Does having a militia captain with good armor/weapon skills help training?

3. Does your militia commander do anything?

4. I assume the captain of the guard is only for justice.

5. I have heard people say that they have used 1 dwarf to clear entire invasions. Do you just need to capture small animals and beat them senseless with practice weapons till you get a legendary military dude?

ok here goes.
1. no clue but Its possible that you captured/killed that squads commander. that has been known to cause that behavior.

2. not for training, the teaching skill however does.

3. yes absolutely. if nothing else he is a normal member of your military when it comes to fighting. plus he's what you zoom to when you use zoom to squad and the rest of the squad has a habit of following him around like lost puppys

4. yes and no, his squad will be your fortresses police force (beatings and hauling people to jail, so most people give them weak weapons. note not no weapons or they might decide to administer "Stranglings" instead.) but it can also do all the things a normal squad can do. a decent jail setup can stop or at least severely reduce the number of beatings/killings they administer.

5. if your going to use creatures for training I'd go with unarmed goblins rather than critters. seemingly harmless creatures can often slaughter entire fortresses.
or on the other hand you can go the "danger room" route a training room filled with upright spike traps filled with wooden TRAINING spears (attached to a lever on repeat.) builds skill levels unbelievably fast. this is often seen as an exploit but then so are cage traps

the danger room is faster but the helpless gobs have the advantage of being able to train marksdwarves. who are much better ageist things you'd rather not fight at melee range (posionous, on fire, flying, ect.)

ty, I have 2 more

1. What is the general opinion on batista? I have used them to limited effect, the reload time seemed fairly long (i had lvl 10+ siege operators). I didnt get vary many shots in before they run by. If you get the enemies trapped so your balistas can fire on them there are easier ways to kill them.

2. Is there a minimum down angle for archers to fire? Can they shoot down a z-level and forward 1 square?

I am really getting into making inventive ways to kill enemies without resorting to axes.

[Jacob/Lee]

1) I personally hate the things. A single ballista bolt is far outmatched by a single legendary axedwarf.

2) They can, I don't think archers have a minimum angle of fire, either.

[Urist Da Vinci]

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1. What is the general opinion on batista? I have used them to limited effect, the reload time seemed fairly long (i had lvl 10+ siege operators). I didnt get vary many shots in before they run by. If you get the enemies trapped so your balistas can fire on them there are easier ways to kill them.

2. Is there a minimum down angle for archers to fire? Can they shoot down a z-level and forward 1 square?
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1. Ballistas are currently bugged in that they do blunt damage depending on the weight of the ballista arrow.

2. Shots fired close to the 1-down-1-forwards angle sometimes hit the floor under the archer's feet. 1-down-2-forwards never has this problem, so try to avoid steep shooting angles.

BONUS: DF does have flanking bonuses. If you read the combat logs (or play adventurer mode) you will sometimes see "from the side" or "from behind" in the attack text. I have verified through testing in arena mode that dodging is much less effective when the attack comes from behind. Nonsensically, shields are still very effective at blocking attacks from behind. Set up your forces to hit the goblins from 2 opposite sides. Creature facing is only defined during melee combat, so you could have archers on a ledge shoot the goblins in the back while axedwarves hack them from the front.

[Zaphod728]

ty

Just built a danger room and  .
Obviously its an exploit, but it would be cool if there was some sort of risk/reward for training.
Having a more aggressive training policy would increase the training speed but increase the risk of accidents.

Also, the poor cats  . Guess sacrifices must be made.
Maybe it will make my military more hardened to seeing death.

[Garath]

I usually make the capt of the guard and his squad marksdwarfs with wooden crossbows. They hardly ever cause serious harm in beatings (all non miner/wood cutting dwarfs are in militairy and wear leather armor. Miners and cutters are rarely punished).

[Zaphod728]

So do you need to watch out for babies following their parents into the danger room? I didnt even think to check.

[cephalo]

I find keeping my guys together is easier when they are stationed on the rear side of a choke point. Conversely, the enemy tends to emerge from the chokepoint in a piecemeal fashion, so its usually one squad of goblins versus two of dwarves. Eventually your guys gain mad skilz and then it doesn't matter if they take on a whole siege singlehandedly.