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Eagle of Fire

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Boss? I think we have a problem...
« on: January 04, 2008, 03:24:00 pm »


And me who thought that digging my tombs in diagonal was a refreshing idea...

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Re: Boss? I think we have a problem...
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2008, 03:35:00 pm »

At first I thought that the dwarves were not able to bring the coffin thru the diagonals, but later on I noticed that the dwarves actually bring the coffin. The problem is that dwarves can't seem to build anything from the diagonals, which mean that once the coffin is hauled the dwarves can't build it without an horizontal or vertical open space.
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Re: Boss? I think we have a problem...
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2008, 06:42:00 pm »

Is there a stone on that square?  Maybe they don't know how to clean a site that has only open diagonals?
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Re: Boss? I think we have a problem...
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2008, 07:14:00 pm »

I've been under the impression that they don't know how to WORK diagonally. Or, rather, build. One of (or The) reasons why building corner wall bits is such a pain in outdoor buidings. If it's something they have to stand next to, a diagonal tile won't do.
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Re: Boss? I think we have a problem...
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2008, 07:47:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Sean Mirrsen:
<STRONG>I've been under the impression that they don't know how to WORK diagonally. Or, rather, build. One of (or The) reasons why building corner wall bits is such a pain in outdoor buidings. If it's something they have to stand next to, a diagonal tile won't do.</STRONG>

My thoughts and setiments exactly.

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Re: Boss? I think we have a problem...
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2008, 07:49:00 pm »

You were right Toady. You can see on my previous picture that there was no stone on the left side of the tomb...

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Re: Boss? I think we have a problem...
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2008, 08:02:00 pm »

how about sealing the tomb with an obsidian block after you put it there :P
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Re: Boss? I think we have a problem...
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2008, 10:47:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Serondal:
<STRONG>how about sealing the tomb with an obsidian block after you put it there :P</STRONG>

Wait until there's a corpse in it first!

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Re: Boss? I think we have a problem...
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2008, 11:03:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Toady One:
<STRONG>Is there a stone on that square?  Maybe they don't know how to clean a site that has only open diagonals?</STRONG>

Wait, so they can build on diagonals if the site is cleared first?
/me does some testing

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Re: Boss? I think we have a problem...
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2008, 01:47:00 am »

Yep!

I just dug a diagonal hole like in the OP, removed the stone from it and then planted a coffin in it. It was installed properly. Hooray!
So I guess manually remove the stones before constructing diagonally.

[ January 05, 2008: Message edited by: Skanky ]

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Re: Boss? I think we have a problem...
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2008, 06:35:00 am »

The diagonal construction bug, for example for walls, still exist. In this case, the dwarf don't really need to construct the coffin from the side or diagonal 'cause it's a room item. He stays there to make the construction, like a bed, table or chair.

The stone was the problem in this case. We need to teach those dwarves to haul stones from the diagonals... Get me my teaching whip!   :D

[ January 05, 2008: Message edited by: Eagle of Fire ]

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Re: Boss? I think we have a problem...
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2008, 05:02:00 pm »

Yes, the problem seems to be that when they seek a path to NEAR the building, they don't see squares on diagonals. Thus, if they try to remove a stuck stone, they go to it, try to path to a place to put it, find no non-diagonal space, and cancel. For physical buildings like walls and statues, they, too, path to a spot non-diagonally adjacent to the building, and cancel if only diagonals are present. Which is odd, since they can move diagonally quite fine.
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Re: Boss? I think we have a problem...
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2008, 07:07:00 pm »

The walls one is Bug 438.  It's pretty easy to fix, but a lot of the bugs are like that.  Dunno when I'll get there.
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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2008, 07:02:00 pm »

The diagonal-weird behaviour I've noticed is that they can't build walls if the only access is via diagonals, but they will happily build from a diagonal if there is access head-on somewhere else.
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