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Modded creatures won't eat
« on: July 30, 2011, 12:36:07 pm »
This is my first attempt at creating a playable race and after reading some guides I think I've got things mostly where I want them.  However though the new race can farm, cook, etc. they won't eat anything, plant, meat or cooked meal.  They don't have the NO_EAT or NO_DRINK tags, so they're getting hungry.

Any help is appreciated.

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Re: Modded creatures won't eat
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2011, 02:21:39 pm »
They need a bodypart with the [GRASP] tag to pick up the food. EX hands.
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Re: Modded creatures won't eat
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2011, 02:28:16 pm »
I appreciate the help, I rechecked my design to verify and I've got [UPPERBODY_PINCERS] that have the [GRASP] tag on them.  My creatures can pick stuff up, they're chopping wood, cooking, mining, etc. but not eating.
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Re: Modded creatures won't eat
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2011, 03:09:08 pm »
Is anything in the errorlog?
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Re: Modded creatures won't eat
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2011, 06:35:04 pm »
Strange as it sounds, I didn't think to look there.  Yes, there's a lot in there.  Mostly along the lines of:

HORRORSPAWN:FEMALE:cephalothorax, layer 1: Tissue  was not found, using first tissue instead

I'd forgotten to add the :CHITIN:FAT:MUSCLE after BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:EXOSKELETON_TISSUE_LAYERS!  Also I'd given them the TENTACLE_TOOTH tag, which didn't go well, so I'm removing it, and changed TENTACLE_MOUTH to MOUTH.  So now the tissues are all ok, and they've got what appears to be a working (if toothless) mouth.

Unfortunately after all that, they still won't eat.
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Re: Modded creatures won't eat
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2011, 07:15:44 pm »
Well random guess time.

* Are you 100% sure they have access to food? No burrows no oddly built ramps, nothing blocking them?
* Remove the evil tag
* Remove the nocturnal tag

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   [BODY_SIZE:0:0:3000]
   [BODY_SIZE:0:0:200000]

This means that the creature is 3000 for a split second then explodes into 200000 in size.

Also update the raws you have. Might help if someone else can spot it with fresh eyes.
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Re: Modded creatures won't eat
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2011, 07:24:48 pm »
It's a brand new colony, just starting out, so the food store is literally in the open, surface level, next to the wagon.  I haven't even set up burrows yet, the creatures are literally standing on the food sometimes while hunting for vermin (since they're starving now).

Corrected the body size thing, thanks for the catch there.  You'll be able to see in the new info I put on here, I've stripped out a *ton* of "color" stuff from the creature in an attempt to make them eat.  I've got everything fixed to the point where there's nothing in the error log other than a BP mod THICKNESS that's not used since I removed the body part in question.  Since copying the info here I've fixed that as well.  Still no eating.

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Re: Modded creatures won't eat
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2011, 07:47:17 pm »
Why does only their head live for 800-1000 years? I don't know if that will fix anything, though. have you tried giving them [CAN_LEARN] and [CAN_SPEAK]?
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Re: Modded creatures won't eat
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2011, 08:17:43 pm »
I tried adding those tags per your suggestion with no change, [INTELLIGENT] implies those from what I read. 

The head thing is mis-tabbed, I fixed that with no discernable change.
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Re: Modded creatures won't eat
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2011, 08:55:54 pm »
On a hunch, I changed blood and pus from gas to liquid.  That seems to have fixed it.  I don't quite get why, but at least there was a solution.
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Re: Modded creatures won't eat
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2011, 09:22:45 pm »
I've heard of this bug before.  For some reason, if your creature has non-liquid blood, it can't eat anything other than vermin.  I have no idea why.
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Re: Modded creatures won't eat
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2011, 11:00:12 am »
Maybe the game KNOWS you can't absorb nutrients into your bloodstream if your blood isn't solid?

In any case, try giving them another, gassy tissue layer.
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