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Knight Otu

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Re: Egg question
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2011, 05:02:27 pm »

I thought I read somewhere that creatures with the [MEGABEAST] tag can't breed?
Maybe I'm mistaken (in any case, I hope I am).
They can breed in world gen if they have the child tag. If they can't breed in dwarf mode, as Cocoprimate's experience suggests, then that's probably a bug.

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-Modded in egg-layers don't produce edible eggs. The eggs will get put in the food stockpile but will never be selected for cooking. I don't know how to circumvent this.
From your raws, you didn't add in a body detail plan for the egg materials. That's probably the culprit.
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would be the one fitting for dragons.
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Re: Egg question
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2011, 07:47:04 pm »

I just saw someone else just posted the same thing...heh.

so I'll just go stare at the wall now.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2011, 07:50:42 pm by JediaKyrol »
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Re: Egg question
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2011, 08:39:30 pm »

I modded the size of Cave Crocodile eggs but I can't get them to hatch in less than a season, if instahatching is possible then egg_size can't be the only thing influencing gestation.

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Re: Egg question
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2011, 02:41:19 pm »

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They can breed in world gen if they have the child tag. If they can't breed in dwarf mode, as Cocoprimate's experience suggests, then that's probably a bug.

My conclusion that they can't breed in dwarf mode when the megabeast tag is on, is because after in-game years of fruitless trying, the first try after I took out the tag was successful. From which I inferred it needs to be out to work, though it could have been just chance and in fact maybe they can breed with the tag on. Then came a few failed conceptions, then the second successful one, and then a few more failed (2-3) conceptions. I don't have a mature female yet to keep doing dragon egg !!SCIENCE!!, because I sent the axe lords after the original mother and the juveniles are still too young, but rest assured I will attempt to have a successful batch of eggs with the tag on to confirm or refute this, once I have another female in egg laying age.

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From your raws, you didn't add in a body detail plan for the egg materials. That's probably the culprit.
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:LEATHERY_EGG_MATERIALS]
would be the one fitting for dragons.

I'm going to try this.

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It seems civ egg laying races use a different method to determine fertilization than animals since with civ races it seems nearly 100% when done correctly from my own testing.  But I only studied with intelligent fortress race eggers, and that would hardly be the only thing different about it so it doesn't surprise me.

If it was a fort of egg layers you probably had more than one male present, I think, from my experience, that helps assure conception.
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Re: Egg question
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2011, 05:37:51 pm »

I'm confused.  Why would they still be aggressive after taming?  I released my dragon after I tamed it, it promptly laid two eggs and sat in the meeting hall.  Occasionally it eats a badger but that's the badger's fault.  It's named and all...
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Re: Egg question
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2011, 02:59:20 pm »

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I'm confused.  Why would they still be aggressive after taming?  I released my dragon after I tamed it, it promptly laid two eggs and sat in the meeting hall.  Occasionally it eats a badger but that's the badger's fault.  It's named and all...

That is because your dragon has never murdered someone from your specific civilization. It may have killed dwarves before, but they weren't from your specific civ, so you're in the clear. By the way, you're lucky, as dragons who have not killed people from your civ are not the norm.
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Re: Egg question
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2011, 04:41:23 pm »

Once a creature attacks another creature of a civilization, except in very specific circumstances (tantrum attacks/kills, dwarven justice) they become an enemy of that civilization irrevocably.  That extends to worldgen too if the creature is a historical figure (like a dragon) a dragon that previously killed a dwarf in worldgen is always viewed as an enemy to all creatures of that civilization, and the creature views creatures of that civilization as enemies as well. 

Although taming does a fine job of removing all the stuff that tells a creature to attack stuff they are not specifically enemies with (like dwarves) it does not change any of the civilization level standings on what is and is not an enemy.  Because of that, tame dragons that killed a member of your dwarven civilization at any time will always be aggressive. 

If you are lucky you will find a dragon that's an enemy of your local elven civilization but not your dwarves.
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