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dwarfhoplite

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what happens when i kill goblin general?
« on: July 18, 2011, 07:20:31 am »

will goblins still attack me
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Re: what happens when i kill goblin general?
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2011, 07:32:50 am »

Yeah but they won't come on mounts anymore (so no more goblins riding on cave crocs).
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I got fed up with my fortress, so I decided to kill everyone (abandon is for elves) with a cave-in.

OK, cave-ins were always pretty deadly, but with the new falling object damage they are downright brutal.  As far as I can make out from the logs, many people were killed by the flying bodies of other victims.  One baby's corpse ricocheted off three other people, two walls and the floor.

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Re: what happens when i kill goblin general?
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2011, 08:37:16 am »

Could someone edit the Goblins page on the wiki and add info on their officers/leaders when they siege you and when they die. This gets confusing at times.

Also, when the general dies, all goblins in that siege retreat instantly.
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Re: what happens when i kill goblin general?
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2011, 11:05:18 am »

Could someone edit the Goblins page on the wiki and add info on their officers/leaders when they siege you and when they die. This gets confusing at times.

Also, when the general dies, all goblins in that siege retreat instantly.

I edited the wiki page a bit.
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I got fed up with my fortress, so I decided to kill everyone (abandon is for elves) with a cave-in.

OK, cave-ins were always pretty deadly, but with the new falling object damage they are downright brutal.  As far as I can make out from the logs, many people were killed by the flying bodies of other victims.  One baby's corpse ricocheted off three other people, two walls and the floor.

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Re: what happens when i kill goblin general?
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2011, 11:15:55 am »

afaik goblins keep attacking no matter what, even if you kill their leader. Here's hoping when the game gets updated to have worlds change as you play there will be ways to completely destroy the goblin civ pestering you. (and to get some new enemies after that)
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Re: what happens when i kill goblin general?
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2011, 11:33:55 am »

On the same note, what happens if an elven general or even royalty turn up in an attack and you kill them? (saw the local elvish princess turn up in an ambush, didn't manage to murder her though)

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Re: what happens when i kill goblin general?
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2011, 11:48:40 am »

On the same note, what happens if an elven general or even royalty turn up in an attack and you kill them? (saw the local elvish princess turn up in an ambush, didn't manage to murder her though)

Because of a bug, once that elven princess left the map, she disappeared. So, if you forced a retreat, you DID manage to murder her. High five!

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Re: what happens when i kill goblin general?
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2011, 12:28:41 pm »

I've encountered the Goblin Master a couple of times. 

The first time was when I caught her in a cage trap.  I was interested and went into Legends mode and looked her up.  In her life she had gone to the deeps and caught and tamed a whole lot of beasts.  After the particular siege where she participated, and I killed a few dozen goblins and their mounts and so forth, no beasts ever showed up again.  Neither did really big sieges.  But I'd already killed at least hundreds, if not into four figures, of goblins by this point.  It could have been that that last siege was a last-ditch effort of nearly everything they had left and when I killed them all, they were out of warriors.

The second time I killed the Master on the field of battle.  None of the sieges up to that point had had mounts or war beasts, but I didn't really think too much about it so never looked in Legends mode to see anything about him.  Subsequent sieges were still pretty big, although there were still no mounts or beasts.  I killed him pretty early on, though, so it may just be that I hadn't drained the local civ of military goblins yet.

So I know this is a small sample size for !!SCIENCE!! but I've developed two hypothesis:

1) If the Master of the local civ never trained beasts, there won't be any in sieges.  If you capture/kill him early enough, you'll never see mounts/beasts.

2) You can drain the pool of available goblins, if you kill enough of them. 
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Re: what happens when i kill goblin general?
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2011, 02:06:08 pm »

Goblins never run out--I like small and pocket worlds, and when you gen the world there are never more than 1000 subjects.  I usually end up with waay more dead goblins that that by year 10.  However killing leaders is bad, keep 'em caged and the lovely war jabberers will never stop coming.
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