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[Psychobones]

So I don't know if this is still the case, but I had read somewhere that oceanside volcanos were extremely rare and fairly coveted. I have happened to generate one. Ok, well there's a slight problem. The volcano isn't quite as, uhh, oceanside as I would like. In fact, it's umm... well... uhh... how can I say this... IN the ocean, as opposed to being beside it. Minor issues of course. I was considering just using DFliquids to obsidianize the opening so that the water didn't fall in, but then I noticed it lacks iron. Still worth playing? Valuable map?

[Number4]

Lacks all 4 kinds of iron?

[Psychobones]

Lacks all 4 kinds of iron?

If I were to play it, the only iron available would come from goblins. Metals available are gold, silver, and zinc.

[squeakyReaper]

Gold is pretty valuable as a working material, and silver makes great hammers.  Goblinite is the main source of all militant DF players' iron anyways, so yeah I'd say that's a decently valuable map.

[Psychobones]

Gold is pretty valuable as a working material, and silver makes great hammers.  Goblinite is the main source of all militant DF players' iron anyways, so yeah I'd say that's a decently valuable map.

The value was more directed at the shoreside volcano, less so the metals. I played in 40d and .19, I'm sure I can figure out a way to get my steel.

[Rentorian]

The biggest value of having a volcano of any kind is the fact that magma either requires no pumps to get what you want, death traps, magma forges, etc.  Or that it requires very few to do so instead of making a 100+ high pump stack.
So from what I can see the map is still pretty valuable.  Precious metals to make trade goods from, plenty of fish, plenty of water for whatever you need, and easy access to magma.

[Shootandrun]

No metals to make armor or good bolts. So if you want to kill your goblins, you'll have to either kill them with bone/wood/silver bolts, or fight them with hard to get metal from the caravans. The metal industry will be a bitch to start. But once that's done, it'll be a good map.

[CriticallyAshamed]

Are you sure you're within access to the goblins? It'd be a pity if you couldn't get goblinite because you're classed as in the ocean or something.

[Gamerlord]

cmon man! I've been trying for an ocean volcano for ages now!

[shadenight123]

never had iron or steel or flux for what it mattered in one of my forts.
Had flux stone taken from the liasons, bought off all iron from merchants, and voilà.
Only problem is setting up traps and walls for the occasional ambusher squads...but it's not difficult to go far even without iron.

[Umune]

Several silver hammers, some silver spiked balls, a properly laid out corridor, and one counterambush.

[Patchy]

I've only ever seen a volcanoe on the actual beach section of an embark once. I generally consider them to be beyond rare... I've seen far more submerged volcanoes.

Anyways here is the link to the one I did see. If you want to try genning it now, you can. I genned this one back in like .12 I think. So no guarentees on it working anymore.

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=64032.msg1521068#msg1521068

[Psychobones]

My questioning of value was related to if the embark was valuable, I have played my large fair share of forts, I'm sure I can play the map.

Guessing by Patchy's and Gamerlord's comments, the embark is pretty valuable. I also just generated a SECOND one of these, however the volcano is not submerged, making it a bit better. The downside is the lack of iron again, however goblins can provide it as mentioned earlier. Copper is the only metal available.

For those interested, I'm genning pocket regions with a rather large amount of volcanoes for the map size. Seems to be working, as I'm getting a few each map that are CLOSE however these two are so far the only two worth using.