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Jetriot

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Re: Realistic Dwarves
« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2011, 09:06:54 am »

This is not goonstation 13
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« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2011, 09:11:32 am »

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Sounds like it almost nails Dwarf Fortress on the head.  :P
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« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2011, 09:17:50 am »

I wonder if boogeymen like "waste" right in there faces.

"The spining *poo* strikes the boogeyman in the head shattering the skull and bruising the brain.
The boogeyman has been struck down."
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« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2011, 10:22:59 am »

How much of a stretch of the imagination is it to assume that your Dwarves are smart enough to not poop in their beds, on the tables, in the mason workshop... and instead just waddle outside and relieve themselves into a small hole all on their own?

Also, what is stopping you from designing your fortress with a sewage system of water filled tunnels, pumps, and personal wells in each bedroom? Just use your imagination.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2011, 10:28:37 am by richieelias »
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« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2011, 10:27:38 am »

I think it's interesting that I was originally told that no one cares aobut this yet I'm getting a lot of help.

There's a difference between "We're interested in adding this functionality" and "We're interested in solving the problem of how to add it". It's an interesting mechanical issue. Try this:

Create a file called material_template_excrement.txt and add this to it:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

And add this to dwarves in creature_standard.txt:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Try that out and see if it works. Your dwarves will want to lay a "dwarf egg" every three months or so, and will do so if a nest box is available, and because it's a liquid they won't sit on it, or be able to stockpile it, so it should eventually rot. If it doesn't work, look in errorlog.txt in the main dwarf folder and see what it's moaning about.

One possible issue is that it might not rot, as it would count as a contaminant. Blood and ichor are supposed to rot, but don't, so you might have to use a solid material's melting point and just accept that dwarves do it inside and refuse haulers take it away. You could even put in a reaction to convert dwarven excrement to potash so you can use it as fertiliser.
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« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2011, 10:38:48 am »

Bonus point if you make it a log of excrement.
That's a pretty good solution, unfortunately it doesn't allow for plumbing, but oh well. Another industry to use poo in: tanning.
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« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2011, 12:47:56 pm »

Dwarves are never sober , so you should expect liquid excrements.
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Re: Realistic Dwarves
« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2011, 01:00:38 pm »

How much of a stretch of the imagination is it to assume that your Dwarves are smart enough to not poop in their beds, on the tables, in the mason workshop... and instead just waddle outside and relieve themselves into a small hole all on their own?

Err, they drop rotting food on their beds, stand on a dining table when someone else is eating there and waddle outside to collect a dirty sock while goblins watch with amusement. I believe they have brains like koala, and you are outstretching imagination if you believe otherwise.
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Re: Realistic Dwarves
« Reply #38 on: July 01, 2011, 01:18:35 pm »

How much of a stretch of the imagination is it to assume that your Dwarves are smart enough to not poop in their beds, on the tables, in the mason workshop... and instead just waddle outside and relieve themselves into a small hole all on their own?

Err, they drop rotting food on their beds, stand on a dining table when someone else is eating there and waddle outside to collect a dirty sock while goblins watch with amusement. I believe they have brains like koala, and you are outstretching imagination if you believe otherwise.

And that's discounting how terrible they are at not running into a wave of magma, nor enemies, while plainly in sight and coming ever so slowly  :D

I'd say koala's a bit too high above them, more like ants, I'd say!
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« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2011, 01:24:09 pm »

How much of a stretch of the imagination is it to assume that your Dwarves are smart enough to not poop in their beds, on the tables, in the mason workshop... and instead just waddle outside and relieve themselves into a small hole all on their own?

Err, they drop rotting food on their beds, stand on a dining table when someone else is eating there and waddle outside to collect a dirty sock while goblins watch with amusement. I believe they have brains like koala, and you are outstretching imagination if you believe otherwise.

And that's discounting how terrible they are at not running into a wave of magma, nor enemies, while plainly in sight and coming ever so slowly  :D

I'd say koala's a bit too high above them, more like ants, I'd say!

Hey, don't insult the ants, they're people too.
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« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2011, 01:49:32 pm »

What's this nonsense about dwarves and waste?

They lay waste to everything they touch.
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« Reply #41 on: July 01, 2011, 01:59:07 pm »

I loves this topic, and I'm on the side believing it'd only add to the game. Rome Total war I remember had Cesspool buildings for the cities :b
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« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2011, 02:01:50 pm »

Just build a porcelain throne in everyones room.
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