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[antymattar]

So I had this cool idea that would fit in with all the night creatures.

Here's the idea- If there are two people in love(a romance) and one of them dies, then he might be allowed to come back as aphantom and ask his loved one to join him after his death. If the spouse(/groom) agrees then she will kill herself. If the spouse/groom does not then the lover who had come back from the dead must become a night creature depending on what happened to the other lover. If she simply refused to die, then he becomes a NC and will stalks pairs who have a romance. If the lover died in battle, then the one left will haunt tombs and dead bodies. If the lover drowns then he will haunt the lakes. If the loved one is burned in lava then the phantom will haunt the death place and possibly spontaneously combust. I' m sure that you guys can think of other things too. What do you think?

[antymattar]

Bump?

[Angel Of Death]

It sounds alright, but I don't think it would fit into DF.

[antymattar]

  why not?

[Stromko]

It makes about as much sense to me as the syndrome creatures (necromancers, shifters, etc) that are created during world gen, so I don't see why there couldn't be revenants like that. The only issue I see with it is getting DF to choose who comes back and who doesn't, as I'm not sure it tracks how much lovers like eachother right now-- might be kind of a binary yes/no thing, and we can't have it happening all the time.

Though I suppose it's no worse than asking the game to figure out whether someone wants to live forever enough to become a necromancer, or whether someone decides to profane a temple and get cursed. Once Toady figures out how to make those situations happen enough, but not too often, it's a simple matter to add romantically-linked ghosts / wraiths/ whatever without breaking the game either.

Not sure about the ghost having different attributes based on how its lover died, though. Makes more sense for ghosts in general to have some sort of effect based on cause of death though, rather than what happens after they've died. For instance a ghost that died in jail can have a spectral chain wrapped around its ankle forever, and perhaps if they drowned they'll have the ability to start drowning creatures when it touches them.

[antymattar]

It makes about as much sense to me as the syndrome creatures (necromancers, shifters, etc) that are created during world gen, so I don't see why there couldn't be revenants like that. The only issue I see with it is getting DF to choose who comes back and who doesn't, as I'm not sure it tracks how much lovers like eachother right now-- might be kind of a binary yes/no thing, and we can't have it happening all the time.

Though I suppose it's no worse than asking the game to figure out whether someone wants to live forever enough to become a necromancer, or whether someone decides to profane a temple and get cursed. Once Toady figures out how to make those situations happen enough, but not too often, it's a simple matter to add romantically-linked ghosts / wraiths/ whatever without breaking the game either.

Not sure about the ghost having different attributes based on how its lover died, though. Makes more sense for ghosts in general to have some sort of effect based on cause of death though, rather than what happens after they've died. For instance a ghost that died in jail can have a spectral chain wrapped around its ankle forever, and perhaps if they drowned they'll have the ability to start drowning creatures when it touches them.

yeah pretty much that.

[QuakeIV]

It sounds alright, but I don't think it would fit into DF.

Care to elaborate?

That doesn't say much to me about why you don't want it, and I think its a neat idea myself.


Personally I think I would enjoy encountering a haunted lake with a ghost hovering over it considering its lost lover.

It would need more then that to have a good ghostly surreal feel, and I'm not sure what could create that, but I think that sort of thing has a place in this game.

[Angel Of Death]

I just re-read this.

It's actually a good idea.

[antymattar]

I just re-read this.

It's actually a good idea.

It sounds alright, but I don't think it would fit into DF.

Care to elaborate?

That doesn't say much to me about why you don't want it, and I think its a neat idea myself.


Personally I think I would enjoy encountering a haunted lake with a ghost hovering over it considering its lost lover.

It would need more then that to have a good ghostly surreal feel, and I'm not sure what could create that, but I think that sort of thing has a place in this game.

I think that the lake should have a name in that case. Or perhaps the body of whatever is still in the lake.