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Who is this guy?
« on: May 06, 2011, 05:31:42 pm »



I know he's a basement nerd, but what's the origin?
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Re: Who is this guy?
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2011, 05:32:14 pm »

He looks suspiciously like my dad.
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2011, 06:33:51 pm »

It looks very much like a 1981-ish IBM PC, and the dot-matrix printer looks a little like one I had at about that time, but I can't remember what make it was.  (Epson?  I have an Epson from a couple of years later in my loft.)

I'm pretty sure those 3M disk boxes are for 5¼" floppies, definitely of that era.  I don't think I had more than a couple of those boxes-worth[1] of discs, at that time, so with at least three (and probably a few more, even if still just DD at 360KB a shot) he's a bit more data-heavy than I was then.

The screen is a mystery, because it seems very graphics-heavy, may be (could be image artefacts) in colour, and with white background is very atypical of the era.  Maybe an early DTP package, but I was still on monochrome[2], leastwise on the PC[3], so it isn't something I would have seen much of.  It does have the appearance of a web-page, actually, but the grain of the photo (what can be seen through scanning and JPEG conversion artefacts), the clothing, the watch (if not a black plastic-strapped Casio, something along the same lines) also suggests the '80s (and suited to a not obviously and outrageously rich geek-type), thus also before the Web[4].

From the looks of various other things, it seems to be an American locale, but that's just an unscientific assessments of the aforesaid clothes, glasses, haircut, facial hair, cigarette packet (I think) under the monitor, furniture and of course the (if I've identified it correctly) phone-socket through which our nerd/geek/whateverhewantstocallhimself is accessing the outside world.  Not to mention that this is the most likely place to be using a dial-up computer at this time.  But all I can really say is that it doesn't look British.  (The wood panelling on the wall might have been ubiquitous to the UK... Not so much something noticed in the '80s, but noticed in the 90s as being a sign you're in a room not properly re-furnished since the '80s.)  There's also a vague possibility in the back of my mind that it's West Germany or somewhere in Scandinavia (with good enough central heating/right time of year to allow the casual short sleeves!), which just goes to show how vague my memories of the era are.

Unfortunately, I can't see exactly what's on the top of the monitor.  I seem to have left my Blade Runner-style photo analyser/enhancer/re-angler but I feel that if we could read the writing on the whatever-it-is it might help place things, as would a better view of the screen's contents.  Just in case it was a '90s photo showing someone surfing the web on early '80s equipment.  (Or through an early '80s-style monitor just happened to be placed on top of an early '80s-style machine, but being connected to a far more modern machine under the desk, possibly hidden behind the early '80s printer.)  Ditto for the visible bit of whatever is hanging/stuck on the wall at the top of the photo.


In other words, I don't know, and the above is just composed of partially educated guesses at best.


[1] Plus a whole lot of cassettes, but that was for the ZX81 and later the BBC model B...

[2] Green-on-black, at that time, and in fact until the 1990s I was still using a monochrome Hercules graphics card, comparatively good resolution and shade-range, but still green-on-black ultimately.

[3] Also ZX81, but the BBC was colourful.

[4] Though not, of course, the Internet, or Fidonet, so it could be a pre-Web graphical bulletin-board of some kind.
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Re: Who is this guy?
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2011, 06:38:08 pm »

I think that the screen is photoshop. It doesn't look correct to me.
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2011, 07:05:18 pm »

I think that the screen is photoshop. It doesn't look correct to me.

yeah, the top-left looks like the wikipedia logo, a definite anachronism.
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2011, 07:24:52 pm »

I think that the screen is photoshop. It doesn't look correct to me.

I considered that, but it actually looks inset correctly, to me.  (YMMV, obviously.)  There's a bit of a black band at the top of the screen not immediately conducive to a very white-saturated screen, but it could be the angle of the bevel at that point, in a way not affecting the verticals or the lower edge.  Still, I take your point.  If I had an inkling of which of the billions of possible web-sites that it could be it was, I could compare, but it could as easily be a fairly progressively designed leaflet/brochure from the era.  But thinking again, it would have to be (at the very least) EGA, from late '84, if not (S)VGA from '87 onwards.  And I'm not sure the '81-era monitor would handle that signal, without extensive geeking, as well as making it less contemporaneous with the rest of the equipment shown (at least by my aforementioned estimate).

There's also no sign of lines to show when the shutter-open and shutter-closed timing of the camera (mis)matched the screen refreshing intervals, which might be good timing (or long enough exposure time that one screen refresh scan extra doesn't contrast against the one-scan-less lines above/below), but could indeed show it was pasted on from a fairly normal screen-shot.

A closer look at the pixels indicates a "Red-X" window close button might exist on the TR of the screen, though there's definitely no tell-tale Green "Start" button and blue taskbar in evidence, so it isn't that blatant.  Windows 3.x and before didn't go in for the red-X thing, nor the 9x family or NT/2K progression.  At least not normally, and I don't think you have that much control over the window's title-bar in the colour-choice menus of each of these.  XP would fit the bill, without any messing about at all, with Vista/7 having a completely different look to the top bar.  Or it could just have been a progressive Windows Manager from a DOS-based but (quite) advanced DTP package, but I'm starting to have even bigger doubts about this.


In short, if I was faking that (in GIMP, BTW, although I know you mean "photoshop" in the same way as you'd use "hoover") I'd want either an original photo or some other way of getting a non-JPG scan (doesn't seem to have been limited to a GIF palette, if it was an old scan) of at least twice the resolution, make the edit by placing and skewing/distorting the intended screen then reducing the resolution and introducing the JPG artefacts by putting a higher-than-necessary compression ratio in order to cover up the slight inconsistencies that I couldn't have managed to artistically blend away in the first place.


Anyway, I stand by the rest, and the screen can remain a mystery. :)
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2011, 07:39:22 pm »

yeah, the top-left looks like the wikipedia logo, a definite anachronism.
You've got better pattern-recognition algorithms than me, I must admit.  There's too few pixels for me (even after you've said what it might be) to be able to be so sure.

However, the original question was "Who is this guy?", and regardless of the rest I still say he's a US (shall we say Californian? ...though that is a stretch and based only on the short-sleeves) geek of the very early '80s.  Age?  I'm not really any good at this, but, IMHO, has the look of someone 18-19yo (still an adolescent, although better moustache growth than I could get at that age, and the arms look very adult, but no obvious sign of any photoshopping of the head and body together).

To have a new IBM PC would have some form of income ('geek-for-sale'?) or sympathetic parents with spare cash, although if it's maybe five years later it could have been a second-hand system for a lot, lot less and maybe picked up from a garage/yard sale or ex-company stock having been disposed of through one means or another.  ICBW.
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Re: Who is this guy?
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2011, 11:21:55 am »

The screen is a shop.  There's pictures of him over the internet with a whole bunch of different things on the screen.  I was more getting at that I know this guy is a meme but I don't know what the name/origin of the meme is.  Apparently he's a more obscure meme then I thought though.  Sorry I didn't make it clearer, I expected more people to be familiar with the guy.
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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2011, 11:54:04 am »

yeah, the top-left looks like the wikipedia logo, a definite anachronism.
That's a Windows XP border there too.
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2011, 01:22:36 pm »

That can't be the Wikipedia logo there. Wikipedia has never had a layout that looks like that, what with the column of external links on the right and the tiny colored words over a couple pictures.

(I Wayback Machine'd Wikipedia for every year since it started)
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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2011, 03:33:29 pm »

Looks more like an old video website to me. Also, Wikipedia does have the side-bar on the right if you're viewing a right-to-left language version of it.
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Re: Who is this guy?
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2011, 03:43:54 pm »

Mainiac has already stated that the screen means nothing to this investigation.

I think the image looks to be about mid-late 80s, rather than early 80s.
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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2011, 04:22:56 pm »

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