Just thought I'd add an update from my post (back on page 1). With my current (.25) fortress I was able to train seven noobsrecruits from zero to 4 in speardwarf in six months of continuous training with them using nothing but wooden shields and training spears. I literally took the entire first wave of immigrants, drafted them as they were walking across the front lawn to get to the meeting hall, and set them to training.
The specific numbers for them are after six months of non-danger-room training are:
Dodok Limardodok) 4 spear, 4 dodge, 6 fighter, 3 striker, 2 shield
Inod Zessazir) 4 spear, 4 dodge, 5 fighter, 3 striker, 1 shield
Melbil Asteshtomem) 4 spear, 2 biter, 5 dodge, 5 fighter, 3 striker, 2 armor, 0.67 sheild (338 of 500 exp)
Oddom Kulinendok) 4 spear, 1 biter, 6 dodge, 5 fighter, 3 striker, 5 armor, 1 shield
Rovod Kollimul) 5 spear, 5 dodge, 6 fighter, 3 striker, 2 armor, 1 shield
Sigun Atisalil) 4 spear, 5 dodge, 6 fighter, 3 striker, 1 shield
Zulban Zimkelkib) 5 spear, 4 dodge, 5 fighter, 3 striker, 2 shield
All seven of these showed up with exactly zero in all of the skills listed above.
It is now spring, they have just upgraded from training spears to steel and iron (no flux, but I was able to melt down three steel anvils the mountainhome supplied) and I am expecting the first elven caravan to show up soon ... I just wish I could remember if I was already at war with them on this fort or not. The civs screen won't show that until they show up for the first time.