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numerobis

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Learning diagnosis
« on: April 03, 2011, 12:28:07 pm »

I embarked without a diagnostician, and 80 dwarves later not one has arrived who knows how to diagnose (plenty of bone setters and suturers and wound dressers and surgeons though).  Is it possible to train a dwarf in diagnosis?

I picked a random dwarf and set him up as chief medical dwarf, but he doesn't diagnose patients.
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Re: Learning diagnosis
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2011, 12:35:26 pm »

You also have to enable the Diagnosis labor in the Labor screen (under Healthcare category).
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Re: Learning diagnosis
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2011, 12:45:31 pm »

I hope you chose one who thinks that it is rewarding to help others. Otherwise he just might not care enough to pop by the hospital.
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numerobis

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Re: Learning diagnosis
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2011, 10:30:32 pm »

You also have to enable the Diagnosis labor in the Labor screen (under Healthcare category).
I forgot to mention I had done that indeed.  I didn't check on his feelings though.  But would that cause him to sit unemployed for months rather than diagnose?
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Re: Learning diagnosis
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2011, 11:31:24 pm »

Dabbling Diagnostician: Yep, that's a injury alright. Better do something about that.
Legendary Diagnostician: It's Lupus. *pills*
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Re: Learning diagnosis
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2011, 11:40:39 pm »

I've done a couple forts with embark-trained Diagnosticians, but most of my Diagnosis-enabled dwarves started from scratch.  Diagnosers seem to be happy to sit around with "No Job" for a while before running off to diagnose people - checking Jobs, usually the Diagnose job simply hasn't shown up yet, which is probably the Chief Medical Dwarf's fault, though it seems to happen both with Embark-trained and unskilled CMDs, so I'm not sure how to improve on that.

Diagnosis is also a very, very low priority labor, which can stymie a hospital even if the Jobs are getting promptly created.
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Re: Learning diagnosis
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2011, 12:05:49 am »

Dabbling Diagnostician: Yep, that's a injury alright. Better do something about that.
Legendary Diagnostician: It's Lupus. *pills*

Urist mcHouse says "It's never Lupus."

But to go along with the discussion, yes if the dwarf who is your chief medical dwarf, or main diagnoser, does NOT like to help others he'll just sit around going "Meh." while your hospital stocks up on fatally injured/syndromed dwarves.  If he DOES care enough to get there he'll basically go "Walk it off." and then bugger out and get an unhappy thought.  At least that's what mine did until he got into an "accident" and I found one who LIKED helping others.
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Re: Learning diagnosis
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2011, 12:20:40 am »

After the first decent (15+) migrant wave I pick whowever has the best diagnostician skill, or the best overall medical skills if no diagnosticians have appeared, to be my CMD.

/alt+tab's to check the prefs of his newly appointed CMD for "likes to help" ... since its the middle of a battle against 15 sword elves and a spear elf (16 v 8, and half the dorfs are noobs with no armor).

[edit very shortly after posting]  I hope a "sense of duty" makes up for not caring one way or the other about helping folks.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2011, 12:22:35 am by krenshala »
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Re: Learning diagnosis
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2011, 01:38:20 am »

If they don't like or hate helping others, that's OK. The ones who do like helping will get a happy thought though.
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