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Blue_J

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Ice - "Inside" vs. "Above Ground"
« on: April 01, 2011, 08:00:51 pm »
Hi all.

So, I started my most recent fort in a freezing biome, with my sights set on an above-ground obsidian-casting megaproject later on. Now, while I was thinking about this, I realized that the water for the casting would freeze outside, so my idea was to simply build a roof over the casting area so that the squares being cast had the "Inside" property, allowing the water to remain liquid. I used the freezing method to pierce the aquifer layer, and when I was buttoning up the pit left by that method, I quickly discovered that once a square is "above ground," the fact that it's "inside" seems to do nothing to keep it from freezing. The wiki article on ice wasn't clear on this point, so I was surprised.

Has this happened to anyone else, or am I just doing something weird? Right now it's looking like my megaproject idea is a complete non-starter.
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Re: Ice - "Inside" vs. "Above Ground"
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2011, 08:28:56 pm »
Yup. Inside/Outside has no meaning when it comes to freezing. It's all Above Ground/Subterranean.
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Re: Ice - "Inside" vs. "Above Ground"
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2011, 08:31:03 pm »
Quote from: Urist Imiknorris on April 01, 2011, 08:28:56 pm
Yup. Inside/Outside has no meaning when it comes to freezing. It's all Above Ground/Subterranean.

Crap. Well, at least I didn't waste too much time before finding that out. I guess I'm going to try again in a desert or something...
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Re: Ice - "Inside" vs. "Above Ground"
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2011, 08:35:02 pm »
If your obsidian casting, I don't know if it would make a difference, at least if temp is on. Since when you pour the magma in, the ice will melt anyway.
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Re: Ice - "Inside" vs. "Above Ground"
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2011, 08:41:38 pm »
Quote from: beorn080 on April 01, 2011, 08:35:02 pm
If your obsidian casting, I don't know if it would make a difference, at least if temp is on. Since when you pour the magma in, the ice will melt anyway.

Well, I was going to pour water onto magma, not the other way around, but either way it's not going to work if I can't make water flow above ground. I guess I could just turn temperature off, but I think I'll just bite the bullet and move to a desert.
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Re: Ice - "Inside" vs. "Above Ground"
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2011, 08:53:55 pm »
Simple. Move your casting underground. Double-points: Make your casting out of ice.
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Re: Ice - "Inside" vs. "Above Ground"
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2011, 09:44:57 pm »
Just switch from obsidian to ice. My latest fort is gonna be just that; an ice-cast castle. Only problem is it's SLOW. Bucket by bucket.
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Re: Ice - "Inside" vs. "Above Ground"
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2011, 10:37:57 pm »
Quote from: CapnUrist on April 01, 2011, 09:44:57 pm
Just switch from obsidian to ice. My latest fort is gonna be just that; an ice-cast castle. Only problem is it's SLOW. Bucket by bucket.
Would water flow as liquid if surrounded by a magma pipe? The 7/7 magma could be directly above and below the water pipe through constructed floors.
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