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thegoatgod_pan

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Re: Fortress seppuku help needed
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2011, 11:04:36 am »

Yeah about 50 demons came out, military beat them, I had a fail safe mechanism built in to reseal, so I did, no more demons, but heavy lag. Still working on that loyalty cascade, since I can't target any cows manually.
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Re: Fortress seppuku help needed
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2011, 11:26:45 am »

Isn't seppuku real fast? De-militarize and set a room as a burrow. By the way, that room has the ceiling held only by one support.
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Re: Fortress seppuku help needed
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2011, 11:28:17 am »

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1. I sprung hell, the military beat the demons, losing only ten men and it got really laggy, so I savescummed

Wait, what?  You "beat the demons"?  As in you defeated all of them somehow?  I was always under the impression that once Hell was open, it was only a matter of time before you were overrun by continuously growing waves unless you somehow sealed them back off.

More demons enter the map periodically, but they roam just like any wild animal.

Isn't seppuku real fast? De-militarize and set a room as a burrow. By the way, that room has the ceiling held only by one support.
Loyalty cascades are fast and hilarious.
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Re: Fortress seppuku help needed
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2011, 02:03:22 pm »

the most efficient loyalty cascade is to draft everyone into the military, get everyone and all animals int he same area, then order everyone to kill everything at the same time. The winner gets the most elaborate tomb in the entirety of DF history; the kind of tomb that would make the great pyramids look like the poor house even when they were brand new.

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Re: Fortress seppuku help needed
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2011, 02:19:11 pm »

Tiny burrow drowning chamber. Declare emergency. Pull lever.
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Re: Fortress seppuku help needed
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2011, 02:21:43 pm »

Tiny burrow magma chamber. Declare emergency. Pull lever.

I do believe this is what you meant?
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Re: Fortress seppuku help needed
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2011, 02:23:41 pm »

Depends on how much stuff you want left over when the adventurer comes around.
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Re: Fortress seppuku help needed
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2011, 02:51:44 pm »

Isn't seppuku real fast? De-militarize and set a room as a burrow. By the way, that room has the ceiling held only by one support.

[nitpick]Technically, seppuku is/was (under ideal circumstances) an elaborately involved ritual that involved, among other things: eating a last meal, bathing, and dressing in white, and writing a "death poem". Even the self-disembowelment was very particular, requiring the individual to hold the blade a certain way and perform the slice in a certain direction. To quote wikipedia:

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"... In time, carrying out seppuku came to involve a detailed ritual. This was usually performed in front of spectators if it was a planned seppuku, not one performed on a battlefield. A samurai was bathed, dressed in white robes, and fed his favorite meal. When he had finished, his instrument was placed on his plate. Dressed ceremonially, with his sword placed in front of him and sometimes seated on special cloths, the warrior would prepare for death by writing a death poem.

With his selected attendant (kaishakunin, his second) standing by, he would open his kimono (robe), take up his tantō (knife) or wakizashi (short sword)—which the samurai held by the blade with a portion of cloth wrapped around so that it would not cut his hand and cause him to lose his grip—and plunge it into his abdomen, making a left-to-right cut. The kaishakunin would then perform kaishaku, a cut in which the warrior was decapitated. The maneuver should be done in the manners of dakikubi (lit. "embraced head"), in which way a slight band of flesh is left attaching the head to the body, so that it be hung in front as if embraced."source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku
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But, aside from that, I'd have to say that a loyalty cascade would probably be the closest you can get to fort-seppuku in dorf-mode, so go for that maybe why not.
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Re: Fortress seppuku help needed
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2011, 03:14:40 pm »

Or you could do the following, as reminded by EvilFuzzy9:
-make wonderful last meals for everybody
-flood (even partially) the fort in water
-cover the external part of the fort with white-ish something (chalk or tower-cap or whatever)
-make a katana-shaped thing above the fortress, pointing at it, and impale the whole thing with it
-if a tantrum spiral isn't enough to crumble the place to its end, yeah, go loyalty cascade.
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Re: Fortress seppuku help needed
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2011, 04:40:44 pm »

We are waiting until the last day of autumn, making masterwork meals, cleaning up goblins, making nice robes no one will wear, when the ritual comes, I will surely describe it here.  Cultpick will fall or become greater than ever.
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Re: Fortress seppuku help needed
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2011, 06:56:43 pm »

My brother built an enormous pool in the sky with an opening floor. He assigned his dwarves to a burrow under it. They wouldn't leave, but we did find that when he dumped it, water doesn't flow fast enough to stop dwarves that just stand in it from drowning.

Possible: actively try to set off a tantrum spiral. Find a military Urist that loves animals and has a bunch of pets. Dump them all in magma. Additional: forbid bodies of anything that dies in the meeting room, pile bodies in food stockpiles, deface a bunch of masterwork engravings...
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Re: Fortress seppuku help needed
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2011, 01:54:15 am »

Oh the suggestion of pet slaughtering reminds me I forgot to mention my efforts to tantrum spiral everyone by building wooden spikes by crucial doors marked closed to pets.  30 cats, 2 dogs, 2 children and one war jabberer later (the last was  an accident, I love my jabberers), there was a very upset woodcutter, but he was a bed ridden invalid, and actually got over it to my disgust.
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Re: Fortress seppuku help needed
« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2011, 02:12:10 am »

War animals count as pets.  Train up 50 war dogs, assign them to someone, and then order all the war dogs butchered.

One time I embarked with a dozen dogs, intending to breed them, war them, and assign them to my hunters and military.  I immediately trained them and assigned them to my hunter, and then the fort started to lack food in the first few months.  So, I butchered the dogs, and Urist McHunter goes insane and starts plugging everyone full of crossbow bolts.  It was my first tantrum spiral, and it was glorious.
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