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Girlinhat

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Climbing Walls
« on: February 26, 2011, 06:23:58 pm »

So, I got an elf ambush, which was hilarious because I lost 1 child, a few yaks, and then butchered two squads of elves (about 20, plus a war grizzly mount) using only 4 completely untrained axedwarves in bismuth bronze.  Anyways, a bit later, I'm recovering civilian injuries and getting back to business, when someone dies of thirst.  I shrug, expecting this to be some wounded person in the hospital or someone too stupid to drink.  A while later, while expanding my tower, I notice that his body is on Z+1, on top of the wall.  This was very strange, because I had a staircase about 9 tiles away but absolutely no walkable path to this section of wall.  A bit to the side was an elf corpse.  Both of these were partial skeletons.  Is it possible that the people were thrown atop the wall, or maybe they scrambled up and then died of thirst/blood loss?

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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2011, 06:36:38 pm »

Uhm...

"butchered them", figuritivly, right?

RIGHT?!  :o
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Re: Climbing Walls
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2011, 07:04:51 pm »

Uhm...

"butchered them", figuritivly, right?

RIGHT?!  :o

Nope. *elven sweetbread* is great stuff. Haven't you had it before??
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Re: Climbing Walls
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2011, 07:20:07 pm »

First figuratively.
Then literally.

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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2011, 07:24:09 pm »

I wouldn't be surprised if they got thrown. I end up with goblin parts on top of walls all the time after traps cut them to ribbons.

It helps to keep an eye on who's idling to see if someone is stuck, though maybe for military it doesn't show that.
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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2011, 07:42:26 pm »

I think that creatures can get knocked around by large enemies.  It's also been demonstrated that dodging can cause teleportation-like effects, but I'd put my money on a dwarf getting knocked onto the wall by an elven war-grizzly.
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Re: Climbing Walls
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2011, 07:46:53 pm »

I don't know how it happens, but sometimes when civilians walk past walls and there's heavy traffic, they apparently climb walls.

They unfortunately can't climb down, so unless you notice them before it's too late, they're good as dead.
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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2011, 07:52:33 pm »

I had that happen to me too. No siege, no ambush just some random dwarf who ended up on top of an otherwise unclimbable wall.
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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2011, 08:06:35 pm »

Well, luckily I'm building walls over this, since it's my tower, so I won't run into this again, but it was weird.  I had a dwarf AND an elf!  How'd the elf get thrown up there?!

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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2011, 09:19:15 pm »

Maybe the two were wrestling to the death, when the war grizzly came out of nowhere and swiped at the dwarf. Unfortunately, neither he nor the elf could let go in time, and the elf was sent flying with him? Or maybe this was some sort of Romeo and Juliet esque story, where the two climbed the wall to escape their warring peoples, but were soon struck down by a stray [steel bolt]?

Also, that's why I always build my walls at least 2 z-levels high and have the tops walkable for my guards to patrol. The outer side is usually fortifications so my archers can snipe off invaders.
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Re: Climbing Walls
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2011, 09:30:25 pm »

I have an entrance gauntlet full of cage traps with stone grates above the hall (for shooting arrows downward, if that works) and a few tiles of walkway space. During a beak dog mounted goblin siege, somehow a beak dog corpse ended up on top of one of the grates. It either got thrown up through a grate somehow, or it flew about 3-5 tiles over a wall and landed there. Regardless I have no idea how it got there or if it was alive when it landed.