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shmelse

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I has a Bucket
« on: January 29, 2011, 05:41:09 pm »

Once upon a time, I had a bucket and all was right with the world. My bucket was in a well. 

But then, the little man took away my bucket. (He deconstructed the well and the bucket fell down into the water below.)

The water was a small room flooded by an aquifer. There was no way to get my bucket back! But at least I could still see my bucket, down at the bottom of the well, and remember the good times we had together.

Then, I did a possibly stupid thing.  I wanted to open another well underneath my hospital, so I made dug out a bigger space and took down the doors, releasing the flow of the aquifer. 

The bucket was in a room such that the flow of the aquifer would have carried it though a diagonal path. B/c I suck at ascii drawing:


The problem is that I can't see the bucket anymore. It still appears on my stocks list, but it's no longer visible when I loo[k] over any area of the pool.  So did causing it to flow through the diagonal somehow smush the bucket? Is there a point to mounting some kind of screw pump based expidition to hold back the water long enough for me to get back my bucket or is it already gone?

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Sphalerite

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Re: I has a Bucket
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2011, 05:49:22 pm »

There is a bug in that objects being pushed by fluid flow sometimes get pushed into limbo.  The object is still technically in the same location, but does not show up on the screen (and is not affected by fluid movement or temperature).  If you can get a dwarf to the location, the dwarf will be able to retrieve it.  Otherwise it's invisible.

You should be able to go to your stocks screen, go to the bucket and press the key to take you to the exact location to confirm this.
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shmelse

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Re: I has a Bucket
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2011, 05:53:11 pm »

You should be able to go to your stocks screen, go to the bucket and press the key to take you to the exact location to confirm this.

Gotcha. I wasn't sure whether that was just showing me where the last "known" location was, where the game thought it still was, or whether the bucket was actually still located there. That's great news, though. Bring on the screw pumps! The bucket will be mine again!!
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"Aye, th' fortress o' Barbedgear. They say th'r was a dinin' room dere...o' such splendor tha' it'd reduce ye te tears! Masterful engravings lined th' walls! Th' food was endless!"

"An' th' tables?"

"Oh, those fuckin' TABLES...*weeps gently into beard*"

Jacob/Lee

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Re: I has a Bucket
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2011, 08:56:41 pm »

I had a similar issue with chains that magically disappeared when I deconstructed them, they were "occupied" as far as the game knew so I couldn't rebuild them, but if I dumped them with the stocks menu they would be grabbed out of thin air by dwarves and become physical objects again.

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Re: I has a Bucket
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2011, 09:27:07 pm »

Only in dwarf fortress would someone consider draining an infinite amount of water temporarily, in order to retrieve a (Likely wooden) bucket.
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