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Author Topic: Has anyone tried Magma Man/Fire Man power?  (Read 1263 times)

Knigel

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Has anyone tried Magma Man/Fire Man power?
« on: January 11, 2011, 04:20:39 pm »

Because they have a fixed body temperature, magma men and fire men will release heat into a colder environment as long as they are alive. You can see this in how putting them into a body of water causes it to boil without affecting them.

Has anyone, either in vanilla DF of mods, tried to utilize this as a power source before?
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Re: Has anyone tried Magma Man/Fire Man power?
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2011, 04:50:46 pm »

I'm not sure how you could use it for anything other than exploding booze barrels?
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Re: Has anyone tried Magma Man/Fire Man power?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2011, 05:06:04 pm »

you can use them as an FPS killing machine.

I had a FB in a water level before, it burned off two whole levels.
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Re: Has anyone tried Magma Man/Fire Man power?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2011, 06:07:54 pm »

Doesn't trapping one in a cage heat up the cage?  What if you trapped one in a cage and designated a garbage dump over it and had the dwarves toss some graphite and booze barrels down there?  It'd be a great deterrant for enemies.  :D

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Re: Has anyone tried Magma Man/Fire Man power?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2011, 06:19:23 pm »

Doesn't trapping one in a cage heat up the cage?  What if you trapped one in a cage and designated a garbage dump over it and had the dwarves toss some graphite and booze barrels down there?  It'd be a great deterrant for enemies.  :D

I thought cages kept things from release heat.

Also, can boiling water kill someone, because you could use them to infinitely boil a pool that has a waterfall flowing into (to replace the boiled water) it and throw prisoners into it.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2011, 06:25:45 pm by Knigel »
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Re: Has anyone tried Magma Man/Fire Man power?
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2011, 06:23:58 pm »

Dig a pit, put magma man into pit, build waterwheels near pit, connect pit to ocean.
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Re: Has anyone tried Magma Man/Fire Man power?
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2011, 06:31:31 pm »

Oh wait, here's another one: dig a large cavity into the ground with a small hole at the top, fill most of the way with water, place magma man inside, seal hole.

You now have a geyser/steam mine.
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Re: Has anyone tried Magma Man/Fire Man power?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2011, 06:46:34 pm »

Chain him inside a glacier and then collect the water that flows out from the melt/re-freeze cycles.
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Re: Has anyone tried Magma Man/Fire Man power?
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2011, 07:08:55 pm »

Doesn't trapping one in a cage heat up the cage?  What if you trapped one in a cage and designated a garbage dump over it and had the dwarves toss some graphite and booze barrels down there?  It'd be a great deterrant for enemies.  :D

Yes, I've caged a forgotten beast that was made of flame, and it kept its -steel cage- permanently hot enough to boil water and dwarves.

If you drop said hot cage at the bottom of a shaft, you can use the shaft as a drain for a water wheel farm. Dwarven Steam Plants are cooler, and more realistic, than Dwarven Perpetual Motion Water Reactors.

You could also use an iron bin full of flaming lignite as a heat source for the steam plant.

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Re: Has anyone tried Magma Man/Fire Man power?
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2011, 07:46:01 pm »

^Well I stand corrected.

So there is a way to get steam power.

Admittedly, they're both giving an enormous middle finger to conservation of energy, so they're equally unrealistic, but you're right that monster-fueled steam plants are way cooler than water wheels feeding each other.
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Re: Has anyone tried Magma Man/Fire Man power?
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2011, 11:47:32 pm »

How does one utilize steam to create power?
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Re: Has anyone tried Magma Man/Fire Man power?
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2011, 11:56:12 pm »

How does one utilize steam to create power?

Actually I read that wrong. He's not "really" using steam power, he's just using it to get rid of water.
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