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Re: Dented foot
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2011, 10:38:45 pm »

And also, don't motor nerves and sesory nerves eventually heal

In reality, yes. Not in DF.
You can store unlimited objects in a cat sized space, and you can live with no light, no heat and no air movement. But you can't heal nerve damage.
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Re: Dented foot
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2011, 10:43:57 pm »

It's a bug that Toady's gonna have to fix sometime in the future (perhaps when DF becomes beta or something).
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Re: Dented foot
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2011, 12:10:29 am »

You should get rid of him.
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« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2011, 11:48:07 am »

There are definitely 2 kinds of DF players.

There's your "apply magma to wounded dwarf" school, which I respect.

And then there's the "give him a palace filled with all the fine things he loves" school.

I say go with 2, if only to be different.
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« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2011, 12:51:43 pm »

At least keep them around till they churn out an artifact.  They mood like any other dwarf and its the only time they'll walk again
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Re: Dented foot
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2011, 02:15:33 pm »

I really should set them up to heal automatically (Once again, it's not cheating, but a workaround) - I simply can't bring myself to put any of my dorves out of their misery.
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Re: Dented foot
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2011, 05:20:18 pm »

So many horrible people.  He got wounded defending the fortress!  He is a hero worthy of a purple heart!  The VA would be so pissed off at all of you.

You should build a small underground mansion around his bed!

Of course, since that much more often than not is not feasible, free food booze and board for the rest of his [emphasis]natural[/emphasis] life would do. Yer all acting like a bunch of 'cull the wounded from the herd' ELVES!  Are you going to start eating them next?


(except for you mod out nerve damage folks, while I do not do such things myself I do not condemn it)
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Re: Dented foot
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2011, 05:24:34 pm »

I've had trouble with modding nerve damage to heal. Never seems to work right for me.  :'(
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Re: Dented foot
« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2011, 05:28:59 pm »

Well yea, modding the materiel itself doesn't work, the tag that makes it behave like nerves seems to be hardcoded to cause the attached tissue to never heal.

I hear removing the damaged bodypart out of the save file's dwarf raw, loading the game, then immediately saving and reverting the change back fixes it.  And from with my experience with raw behavior it makes sense.  But as I said, I haven't tried it. 

Should work by removing all the data related to the bodypart when it is no longer a part of a dwarf, and then when you add a bodypart to an existing creature it creates the part in the origonal state. 

Or it might just completely heal all wounds by redoing all the body linkages and such.  One of the two.
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Re: Dented foot
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2011, 12:11:31 am »

So many horrible people.  He got wounded defending the fortress!  He is a hero worthy of a purple heart!  The VA would be so pissed off at all of you.

You V.A. is clearly different from my V.A.  The suggestions above mostly describe what the V.A. did to both of my grandfathers.....  One of whom did have a purple heart.



As for keeping this DF-related, I'm in the camp the suggests injuring your invalid dwarves to train up your doctors.  As for /how/ you do that, I'm not sure.  Perhaps by digging progressively deeper pits in your hospital and then using pressurized water to "flush" the subjects into a multi-Z-level drop?  Add a few more dents to his portfolio, if you will.

What's more useful?  A crippled militia dwarf that can't even defend itself, or a doctor that can heal the others with a bit more skill?  Cruel?  Sure.  But so goes the life of a dwarf.

Just an idea.
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« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2011, 03:18:50 am »

As for keeping this DF-related, I'm in the camp the suggests injuring your invalid dwarves to train up your doctors.  As for /how/ you do that, I'm not sure.  Perhaps by digging progressively deeper pits in your hospital and then using pressurized water to "flush" the subjects into a multi-Z-level drop?  Add a few more dents to his portfolio, if you will.

I have a better idea.  First of all, if I want to get rid of a wounded dwarf, I used to just wall off the dwarf and let him die of thirst.  Quick, effective, risk-free.  Now, my new hospital is 10 glorious 2x3 rooms each with a door, clear glass window, and a bed between a traction bench and operating table (each made of clear glass).  All I have to do now is lock a door.

However, I'm adding an addition to the hospital, a second open chamber where I can build beds and drop them via a lever linked to a support.  This area is also a hospital.  The idea is, at some point no new patients will be coming into the hospital.  All i need to do is deactivate the nice clean hospital and activate the drop chamber (I think I'll call it a hospice), then deconstruct the beds of the dwarves in question.  They will be promptly "recovered" and taken to the hospice, at which point a quick lever pull will send them on their way.

As for building a shrine for my wounded heroes,
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  And actual heroes.  But unless one of them dodged off a cliff, my actual dwarf champions never take a hit.  Elite marksdwarves that end up invalids will be dropped with dignity and entombed in steel coffins beneath statues of goblin carnage.
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