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[Artzbacher]

I was just wondering, what's the practical difference between those red "-----" and WAR when embarking on a site? I know the red "----" means minor conflict, but:

I've been trying to generate a world where all races are at war with the dwarves (fiddling with CAN_SPEAK and [CAN_LEARN], [BABYSNATCHER] etc.) but at best I'm at war with one race and have red "-----" with the others.

Will red "-----" races eventually siege my fortress like I want them to, or will they simply ambush once in a while? If so - will the ambushes eventually escalate into sieges? I know this is the case with goblins, who are always "----", but what with the elves, for instance? Does the red "-----" mean anything if the elves or humans got it?

[Jacob/Lee]

I'm not sure if this still applies but:

WAR probably means the same or near-same thing.

[twilightdusk]

I think WAR means that you're actively in conflict while ---- just means you're hostile to each other.

[Artzbacher]

Thanks for the answers! Since goblins are always "-----" and always siege eventually, I guess humans and elves will do the same thing. Can anyone confirm this, though?

[Max White]

WAR means that if your civilisation comes to peace over the years that you run your fortress, if they are not normaly at ------------ then they start to like you again, and trade with you.

[Nilik]

Also, when you embark, check that the races in that specific area are at war with the dwarves! I managed to gen a world where the dwarves are at war with the elves in the north of the continent, but not the south. Naturally I embarked just a little bit too far south...

[Max White]

It might look like WAR is worse then ------------, but in truth the opposit is true, as wars start and end, while natural hate is forever.

[Artzbacher]

Again, thanks for the answers. I made dwarves babysnatchers and removed that very same tag from the goblins, so no all races dislike dwarves. Siege trigger is set to 1 for all races, so I hope there will be some action soon.

[Don Blake]

Question- if there is a P next to the Goblin civ's name, does that mean I'm at Peace with them?

[Jacob/Lee]

I'm pretty sure P means they have notable posistions in their kingdom.

[Zaerosz]

Except all civs have that icon. Including kobolds.

[Lovechild]

Question- if there is a P next to the Goblin civ's name, does that mean I'm at Peace with them?

It means that the currently selected civ is at peace with them, I think. This does not stop them from slaughtering your fortress though.

[Aspgren]

Question- if there is a P next to the Goblin civ's name, does that mean I'm at Peace with them?

It means that the currently selected civ is at peace with them, I think. This does not stop them from slaughtering your fortress though.

Think of it as a goblin compliment. "You have a nice fortress there, I just want to slaughter it and see how good it really is!"

[Max White]

In propper, upper clase goblin/dwarven etiquette, one greets their neighbor with a whip to the face. The correct responce is to make them eat magma. This is opposed to elven/dwarven etiquette, where a show of good will and prospects of trade are met with making them eat magma.