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[Drakeero]

Well you could also build a sort of self somewhat contained arena and pit them against things you can't train.

How would I get them to fight each other instead of maybe running to the middle of the ring and having tea with each other?  I suspect they're supposed to be somewhat friendly to one another so they don't kill each other when you discover them.

Also, I think I have a new theory on why so many of them died.  Lots and lots of them have dusts and vapors that cause all sorts of nasty problems.  I wonder if some clowns accidentally killed each other off with their syndromes.

[Kiktamo]

With [PET] you can train them so I would imagine a tame one would attack one that's not tame automatically if that doesn't work then add goblins or another humans/elves if you can tame or not I'm pretty sure clowns automatically attack them.

If you're theory is right however just putting them in the same room long enough might kill them off.

If all else fails apply magma.

[Drakeero]

With [PET] you can train them so I would imagine a tame one would attack one that's not tame automatically if that doesn't work then add goblins or another humans/elves if you can tame or not I'm pretty sure clowns automatically attack them.

If you're theory is right however just putting them in the same room long enough might kill them off.

If all else fails apply magma.

And water.   

Edit:

So far the project is going alright.  Got 165 cage traps set up so far but a good 40 of them are probably left over from outside to deal with those skeletal giant eagles that like to harass me from time to time.  Building hundreds of cage traps is the hard part but hopefully I can reach the fun point tonight.

[Urist McTaverish]

With [PET] you can train them so I would imagine a tame one would attack one that's not tame automatically if that doesn't work then add goblins or another humans/elves if you can tame or not I'm pretty sure clowns automatically attack them.

If you're theory is right however just putting them in the same room long enough might kill them off.

If all else fails apply magma.

And water.   

Edit:

So far the project is going alright.  Got 165 cage traps set up so far but a good 40 of them are probably left over from outside to deal with those skeletal giant eagles that like to harass me from time to time.  Building hundreds of cage traps is the hard part but hopefully I can reach the fun point tonight.

Best of luck to ye,  If it works I'll send you a present.

[Drakeero]

FPS just dropped from 6 to 5.  I'm probably going to cut the preparations for the initial caverns short some and go ahead and breach the wall.  Once the initial surge is trapped I'll see if I can't run out and seal the castle from the rest of the cavern.  Then I set up the second set of traps and open up the basement.


EDIT: Caverns breached!  Dead empty.  There is nothing around anymore, even in the fortress.  Everything must have ran off into the caves.  I'm erecting walls quickly but so far nothing has found its way to me.

EDIT 2: Walls constructed, lead cages underway, had to switch from orthoclase to microcline for mechanisms but those are coming along nicely.  I have begun to trap the fortress.  Hopefully this'll work.

EDIT 3: FPS is dropping dangerously low, starting to flicker to 4.  Half the traps are set up in the place and I'm building walls to help channel traffic some.

[Drakeero]

Big Honkin' Spoiler

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The dwarves all gathered around one another.  They had spent long days and nights toiling to finish the traps, praying that these specially enchanted lead cages would work against the normally untrappable demons.  They had been kept awake even on the surface by the screams of hatred and anguish echoing interminably up through the mining shafts.  It was time for them to draw straws to see who would go and break the seal to the basement.

Kikrost Borushudib the woodcutter began his long trek through the endless corridors.  He and his fellow migrants were welcomed suspiciously as all migrants had been but with the immense work in this project even his skills had proved valuable whether they be supplying the carpenter or simply hauling and installing.  The shortcuts had been walled off in preparation for the onslaught.  He would have to take the very very long way through the tunnels before descending into the fortress yet again, alone.  He had been in there a few dozen times now installing traps or building walls to make rooms out of the senseless arrangements of the floors but now with friends about as far away as they could be his lonely footsteps echoed with a haunted, almost malicious edge.

When he reached the sword he got a much closer look at it then he had gotten before.  It was a long sword, not forged by dwarves.  By Armok what heresy was this?  Something other then dwarves reaching such depths of the earth?  Unthinkable!  The sword was masterwork quality and yet simple and elegant.  Functional and lethal.  It was solidly embedded into an enchanted plinth supplying the seal with power.  On it was a hastily engraved inscription.  It was not masterful or elegant, perhaps rushed and a little sloppy.  "Samo ocnal tun idla pop nesa ul tun rom tuth."*  Those humans, always taking their spirituality and imagery so seriously... how silly.  However he could not help but stand there for a moment contemplating the gravity of such a message.  What must have happened here ages past?

It would do the others no good to linger here.  It was nice here.  The power of the seal drowned out the shrieks from below but his fellows must still have been tormented above.  Kikrost reached out for the sword.  He was warned that when the sword was removed the seal would drop and the protective aura would be gone.  He would be the first one to experience the burst of evil from the depths of the world, nay the world was not THIS deep.  After this moment he would have a new appreciation for the word: underworld.  He took one final breath, grasped the sword, and with a mighty, dwarven grunt yanked it from the plinth.

*"And now [presently] the angel falls victim to the ageless dark." [I had to make some guesses at multiple definitions of some words and I took a fair bit of artistic license to actually make a sentence with just a selection of nouns and verbs.  I hope no one minds.]

Aftermath Edit:

more spoilers, the real kind

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Big disappointment.  I experimented with unpausing the game with reveal on.  [My fps dropped from 4-6 varying down to a solid 3 with the entire map revealed.  go fig.]  Beyond a shadow of a doubt, the clowns are fighting themselves.  The battle report page is now mega-spammed with clowns fighting.  They appear to be held up in a small batch stuck in the corner of some passageways and appear to be immune to each other.  As such they will not path towards my fortress.  A cursory examination of candy land indicates that the clown civil war has continued further as many various battlefields lay scattered about the area.  Some have already finished and have simply left piles of body parts and plumes of miasma many z levels tall.  Now comes the stupid lemming behaviour of my dwarves.  They apparently want to pick up all those nasty clown parts and carry them to a refuse pile.  I noticed it almost too late as they had already entered the basement.  Now, I forbade everything I could find, even turned off refuse gathering for the moment but still they persisted.  I cheated again and used dfliquids to seal off the passage with a chunk of obsidian.  Time for eleven billion job cancellation messages... Hopefully none of them got far enough to pick up any clown powder on their shoes.  To be honest I should have seen it coming.  Even before I revealed the map my dwarves were utterly paralyzed by a massive, un-ending spam of job cancellations which were caused [in hindsight] by them trying to path to unrevealed tiles to gather refuse.

Update Edit:

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Ok so, had a second refuse hauling issue breakout.    Took more measures.  Its temporarily solved.  Ok, also used Runesmith to kill off some of the clowns and I got lucky and nixed some of the ones fighting.  The survivors immediately scattered in a gigaaaaantic undulating lag spike wave that lasted for a good half hour as things slowly made their way around the map.  They're now starting to path into my fortress.  The first row of cage traps are not effective.... awwww dang.  Save game, re-extract world.sav, time to review the tags, see if there's any other mix of tags I can do to beat their trapavoid.  Removing [TRAPAVOID] itself didn't seem to do much good, at least not for this particular clown type.  I wonder if i need to use that sync command.  I wish the World Tinker 3 documentation was better for those of us who are dabblers at the "infer important information" skill and need things explained out the long way.

[Urist McTaverish]

Big Honkin' Spoiler

This is a masterful spoiler created by Drakeero.  All craftsdwarfship is of the highest quality.  It relates to the attempt by Drakeero to quell the denizens of the clown car in October 2010.   

[Dariush]

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 The clowns, unable to path to sweet, succulent dwarven flesh seem to have gone insane much like merchants will if kept trapped for too long and the carnival is a bit of a graveyard with clown corpses scattered around.  The second FPS apocalypse that occurred might be from the game having to calculate the insane amounts of miasma down there.

Does anybody else think about the same thing I am thinking about? In particular,

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

1. Make a looooooong corridor leading to adamantine shaft
2. Make a hole in it
3. Seal up the end of the corridor
4. Watch clowns go insane
5.
6. PROFIT!!!

[LordSlowpoke]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

 The clowns, unable to path to sweet, succulent dwarven flesh seem to have gone insane much like merchants will if kept trapped for too long and the carnival is a bit of a graveyard with clown corpses scattered around.  The second FPS apocalypse that occurred might be from the game having to calculate the insane amounts of miasma down there.

Does anybody else think about the same thing I am thinking about? In particular,

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

1. Make a looooooong corridor leading to adamantine shaft
2. Make a hole in it
3. Seal up the end of the corridor
4. Watch clowns go insane
5.
6. PROFIT!!!

...

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You don't talk about fight club.

[jei]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

 The clowns, unable to path to sweet, succulent dwarven flesh seem to have gone insane much like merchants will if kept trapped for too long and the carnival is a bit of a graveyard with clown corpses scattered around.  The second FPS apocalypse that occurred might be from the game having to calculate the insane amounts of miasma down there.

Does anybody else think about the same thing I am thinking about? In particular,

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

1. Make a looooooong corridor leading to adamantine shaft
2. Make a hole in it
3. Seal up the end of the corridor
4. Watch clowns go insane
5.
6. PROFIT!!!

I kinda accidentally did it, but cancelled the fortress after FPS hit 4. Too bored.
Probably their dusts and poisons that trigger the infighting as they start to effect
each other and they're no longer destroyed by magma. (just my theory)

Now I can't seem to find any fortresses in .16.

[Drakeero]

Well, the game is temporarily shelved for a few moments while I wait for some advice on the modding side of the forums.  Apparently removing [TRAPAVOID] didn't work for me but it works for other people so I dunno what's up.

I re-extracted the worldsav file and yes, the changes I made were written successfully its just, not working.

Big Honkin' Spoiler

This is a masterful spoiler created by Drakeero.  All craftsdwarfship is of the highest quality.  It relates to the attempt by Drakeero to quell the denizens of the clown car in October 2010.   

Thanks, glad you liked it.