Bay 12 Games Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  
Pages: 1 [2]

Author Topic: Dan Bull - The Death of ACTA  (Read 1895 times)

Urist Imiknorris

  • Bay Watcher
  • In the flesh, on the phone and in your account...
    • View Profile
Re: Dan Bull - The Death of ACTA
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2010, 05:17:10 pm »

e: Oh God pirating thread. I'm out before someone raises the Jolly Roger - OH NO.

Logged
Quote from: LordSlowpoke
I don't know how it works. It does.
Quote from: Jim Groovester
YOU CANT NOT HAVE SUSPECTS IN A GAME OF MAFIA

ITS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE GAME
Quote from: Cheeetar
If Tiruin redirected the lynch, then this means that, and... the Illuminati! Of course!

Realmfighter

  • Bay Watcher
  • Yeaah?
    • View Profile
Re: Dan Bull - The Death of ACTA
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2010, 05:18:49 pm »



Man, that looks like a cool place.
Logged
We may not be as brave as Gryffindor, as willing to get our hands dirty as Hufflepuff, or as devious as Slytherin, but there is nothing, nothing more dangerous than a little too much knowledge and a conscience that is open to debate

Zai

  • Bay Watcher
  • Elmo? Is that a SIMPLE UTENSIL?
    • View Profile
Re: Dan Bull - The Death of ACTA
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2010, 05:30:08 pm »

Hell, at a concert I went to a few months ago, the lead singer/guitarist outright told the crowd to pirate their newest album, on the grounds that "it's awesome and we think everyone should hear it".
What band was that?
Logged
DEATH has been waiting for you. He has poured you some TEA.

Sir Pseudonymous

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Dan Bull - The Death of ACTA
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2010, 06:14:01 pm »

Hell, at a concert I went to a few months ago, the lead singer/guitarist outright told the crowd to pirate their newest album, on the grounds that "it's awesome and we think everyone should hear it".
What band was that?
Streetlight Manifesto. The full quote was something like "Our next song is one we didn't write; it's from our new album 99 Songs of Revolution; if you don't have it, then go on the internet and steal it because it's great and we think everyone should hear it."

Granted, this is the same person who said in an interview about an earlier album (which was a rerecording of an album from a band several of the members (including him) had been in) "Although, truth be told, I don't care if a single record is sold ... Do I think it's worth thirteen dollars? Yes, very much so, but that's my opinion. What other people decide, that's their own opinion. We're going to keep doing what we do whether or not a single record is sold."
Logged
I'm all for eating the heart of your enemies to gain their courage though.

Eugenitor

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Dan Bull - The Death of ACTA
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2010, 06:32:17 pm »

I'd reply at length, but heavy torrenting tends to drop my other conne
Logged

dragonshardz

  • Bay Watcher
  • [ETHIC:PONY:ACCEPTABLE]
    • View Profile
    • Steam Profile
Re: Dan Bull - The Death of ACTA
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2010, 09:31:30 pm »

I'd reply at length, but heavy torrenting tends to drop my other conne

Hah, nice.

And wow, what a can of worms I opened. I don't necessarily support Dan Bull, but thanks for sharing your thoughts, people.

I did enjoy the song, though.

sneakey pete

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Dan Bull - The Death of ACTA
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2010, 02:12:22 am »

I love how everyone seems to think that copyrighting is only music, games and movies.
Logged
Magma is overrated.

dragonshardz

  • Bay Watcher
  • [ETHIC:PONY:ACCEPTABLE]
    • View Profile
    • Steam Profile
Re: Dan Bull - The Death of ACTA
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2010, 03:23:30 am »

Grakelin

  • Bay Watcher
  • Stay thirsty, my friends
    • View Profile
Re: Dan Bull - The Death of ACTA
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2010, 05:15:03 pm »

I usually like to use a Brig of War, myself. It's fast, but still has a lot of guns.
Logged
I am have extensive knowledge of philosophy and a strong morality
Okay, so, today this girl I know-Lauren, just took a sudden dis-interest in talking to me. Is she just on her period or something?

Eagleon

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
    • Soundcloud
Re: Dan Bull - The Death of ACTA
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2010, 04:12:35 pm »

I see it as a supply issue. Say we had the ability to grow cars in our backyard. What would happen to the automotive industry? It would disappear overnight, at best shrink to a niche market for people that want customization. Similarly, the only people producing media that will survive this, financially, are people that can supply something you can't copy easily, but which people are willing to buy. Merchandise, for instance, or compelling live performances. It's unfortunate, but it's a natural consequence of technology that will never go away - it's too useful, and too flexible, and there's no way to regulate it without destroying its most useful properties or spending ridiculous amounts of resources far in excess of its financial output. Artists that believe the box can be closed are being willfully oblivious to modern reality. Even people that aren't willing to pirate things are less likely to buy things in this sort of environment. Devaluation - it doesn't feel as good buying something if you know everyone else is getting it for much less.

The better, more realistic solution is to go back to actually doing this stuff for the sake of art, and yes, busking so to speak. Yes, there will be less incredible special effects and CGI in film and games, and fewer books, and even fewer musicians. The stuff we will have, however, will come from truly talented and imaginative people who can't resist spending time in their work, people that will inspire more to follow them. It's a cultural crisis, but not necessarily a negative one if you can reconcile doing something that (*gasp*) isn't profitable.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2010, 04:16:55 pm by Eagleon »
Logged
Agora: open-source, next-gen online discussions with formal outcomes!
Music, Ballpoint
Support 100% Emigration, Everyone Walking Around Confused Forever 2044
Pages: 1 [2]