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[Chandrak]

Ok, this was kind of horrifying, and also vaguely amusing, as is everything weird that dwarves do.

A ways back, I built a large jail. I tend to build all of my rooms large, just because I never know when I might need some extra space for something. I put in 3 chains and a pair of cages, and added in a square of food and a square of drink stockpiles within reach of each one, because I'd heard that you needed to do that sometimes. I've never actually built a jail before, so made both one of the cages and one of the chains a room. Apparently I missed flagging the chain as 'used for justice' - which resulted in this event.

So I went about my business as usual. My countess (curse her lazy hide) demanded the construction of a steel throne. Not having access to flux, I let it pass. So of course when the time came, she imprisoned one of the metalcrafters. After a fair bit of time had passed, just about the time I was thinking of checking on him, I got a message:

"Doc Whiskey has thrown a party at Chain" (Doc Whiskey being the combination High Master Diagnoser and High Master Brewer who showed up one day at my fort).

Fascinated, I watched as half my fort came piling into the jail to party in the dungeon. Then I noticed something else - the guy who had been jailed was Thirsty AND Hungry! The partying dwarves were eating his food! Not only that, but nobody cared to come bring him food or drink either, and he actually DIED of thirst with all these dwarves partying around him! And, to make it even more amusing, immediately after the party ended.

The logical conclusion to this of course is that everyone hated that Metalcrafter, and came to torture him by stealing his food and laughing at him as he slowly wasted away.

[yaklin]

That's not exactly what I was expecting when you mentioned chains and torture loving dwarves in the same thread.

[Johnny Madhouse]

That was excellent.

[Sphalerite]

So I went about my business as usual. My countess (curse her lazy hide) demanded the construction of a steel throne. Not having access to flux, I let it pass. So of course when the time came, she imprisoned one of the metalcrafters.

That can't be right.  Failed Demands don't result in justice.  Mandates, which do result in justice, are always by material (Make steel items) or type (make chairs).

[Chandrak]

*Shrug* I know, but thats what happened. He's got 'violation of production order' and 'injured party: countess', but there was no production mandate at the time.

[Quietust]

*Shrug* I know, but thats what happened. He's got 'violation of production order' and 'injured party: countess', but there was no production mandate at the time.

Yes there was - you just didn't find out until after it was expired and gone.

Also, you defined your jail incorrectly - enabling a chain for Justice prevents it from being used as a meeting zone.

[NightmareBros]

Failed Demands don't result in justice.

Depends on the noble, I beleive. Some forts usually have the hammerer on a 24/7 job because the noble has you hammered for just looking at them funny. Others have the hammerer in the army so he doesn't get rusty, and even better some overseers 'forget' to build a prison so that impossible mandates don't result in death.

[Quietust]

To clarify:

Mandates are what happens when a noble tells you to make something (a Production mandate) or to not export something (an Export ban). Mandates always result in punishment if they are violated - for production mandates this means failing to produce the items before the mandate ends, and for export bans this means bringing the banned item to the depot and then selling it*.

(* if the item fits in bins, though, you can exploit a loophole by bringing the bin to the depot and only trading the bin's contents - the noble won't know who brought the item itself to the depot and will just get an additional unhappy thought)

Demands are what happens when a noble tells you to build something in one of their rooms. Failure to satisfy a demand will make the noble unhappy ("was angered about the state of demands") but will never result in punishment.