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[Vercingetorix]

I was wondering if anyone had an idea of how to figure out whether a site is "normal" evil or undead evil.  I've heard some ideas that Haunted regions are more likely to be undead and that Terrifying is often regular evil, but I wanted to see if anyone had some more concrete suggestions either way.

I used to think the red/gray evil was undead and the pink/purple normal, but that doesn't seem to be the case.  For my next fort I want to settle in a full-blown dead landscape so some guidance would be much appreciated.

[Zaik]

I am not certain but fairly confident that if you see glumprongs(dead looking purple trees) you will *not* see undead at all, and that terrifying gives zombies only with rare living creatures while haunted gives only skeletal undead with rare living creatures.

I have no experience with sinister aside from a 50 second embark where about 15 beak dogs spawned and steamrolled my starting 7 dwarves.

[Vercingetorix]

Ah, see, my current fort does have glumprongs...but undead wildlife.  No skeletal wildlife, either, which makes it a little weird.  And of them, it's pretty much just zombie rhesus macaques and zombie groundhogs (along with various zombie underground crap).

That was what made it strange to me.

[FleshForge]

If you're only getting groundhogs and small monkeys, low Savagery is probably holding you back.

[zilpin]

Maybe if we beg the Great and Powerful Toad he will enlighten us on what Grey, Red, Pink, Purple, Sinister, Terrifying, and Haunted actually mean?

*prostrates self*
*磕頭* All hail the wisdom of the Toad!  May he bless us with protection wisdom from sinister purple!
*磕頭* All hail the wisdom of the Toad!  May he bless us with protection wisdom from terrifying pink!
*磕頭* All hail the wisdom of the Toad!  May he bless us with protection wisdom from haunting grey!


I would love to find more embarks with Glumprong, lots of evil live critters, high savagery.

[zarmazarma]

http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Evil

Sinister = Low Savagery, High Evil
Haunted = Medium Savagery, High Evil
Terrifying =  High Savagery, High Evil

Out of the three, Sinister is the most accommodating. Savagery is a reference to the amount of wild animals in the near by region and the variates they come in. So... I would expect to see undead eagles in terrifying and perhaps beak dogs or slightly less intimidating animals in sinister. I believe that anywhere that is marked with Evil will have some sort of undead, although I could be wrong, as I remember embarking in a sinister area that looked entirely benign... Aside from a pack of undead hippos.

As for the coloring... I'm not sure. Probably just the terrain type.

[jaxad0127]

I was wondering if anyone had an idea of how to figure out whether a site is "normal" evil or undead evil.  I've heard some ideas that Haunted regions are more likely to be undead and that Terrifying is often regular evil, but I wanted to see if anyone had some more concrete suggestions either way.

I used to think the red/gray evil was undead and the pink/purple normal, but that doesn't seem to be the case.  For my next fort I want to settle in a full-blown dead landscape so some guidance would be much appreciated.

As for colors on the map view: http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Map_legend

Purple vs red/gray is just for different biomes.

[Vercingetorix]

I figured that was the case, especially after a gray forest ended up being pretty much normal aside from a few harpies.

Part of the confusion is probably in the names, too.  Sinister and terrifying just sound incredibly harsh and dangerous whereas haunted sounds like it's, well, haunted.

[jaxad0127]

They differ in amount of savagery: http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Surroundings.