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[WormSlayer]

Some trees have a [SAPLING] tag, some dont. But they all produce saplings.

And seemingly only 4 specific trees allow use of the [SAPLING_TILE], [SAPLING_COLOR], and [DEAD_SAPLING_COLOR] tags...

I'm confused... Is this how its supposed to be or is it broken? O.o

[dree12]

[SAPLING] controls what the tree is called. Tower-caps, for example, are called "young Tower-cap" while Willows are called "Willow sapling". There are default values for each of SAPLING_TILE, SAPLING_COLOR, SAPLING_DROWN_LEVEL or whatever, as well.

[WormSlayer]

[SAPLING] seems an odd and clunky way of naming young trees... Something like a [NAME_YOUNG] tag would be more logical and flexible to me... But what do I know

DROWN_LEVEL isnt anywhere to be found in plant_standard.txt - Is this some sort of hard-coded value we cant change?

So is there any way to change the SAPLING_TILE for trees other than the x-caps?

[dree12]

[SAPLING_DROWN_LEVEL] is the level where a sapling drowns. I only pointed that out because I remembered you had 3 sapling stuffs, and I didn't think of DEAD_SAPLING_TILE.

Also, [TREE_TILE], [TREE_COLOR], [SAPLING_TILE], [SAPLING_COLOR], etc. are allowed on all trees. No tree uses SAPLING_TILE by default, but it's allowed.

Edit: I dumped out the tree stuff from the exe:

Spoiler: EXE Dump (click to show/hide)

NAME_PLURAL
AUTUMNCOLOR
TREE_TILE
DEAD_TREE_TILE
SAPLING_TILE
DEAD_SAPLING_TILE
TREE_COLOR
DEAD_TREE_COLOR
SAPLING_COLOR
DEAD_SAPLING_COLOR
SAPLING_DROWN_LEVEL
TREE_DROWN_LEVEL
SAPLING
GROWDUR
PICKED_TILE
DEAD_PICKED_TILE

[WormSlayer]

Thanks dree

Maybe I'm doing it wrong but this is how I have Blood Thorn set and it makes no difference to blood thorn saplings in-game:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[PLANT:BLOOD_THORN]
   [NAME:blood thorn][NAME_PLURAL:blood thorn][ADJ:blood thorn]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
   [BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:WOOD:WOOD_TEMPLATE]
      [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:blood thorn]
      [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:blood thorn]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
      [STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:CRIMSON]
      [DISPLAY_COLOR:12:0:0]
   [TREE:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:WOOD]
   [TREE_TILE:148]
   [DEAD_TREE_TILE:148]
   [PREFSTRING:sickening appearance]
   [WET][DRY]
   [BIOME:SUBTERRANEAN_WATER]
   [BIOME:SUBTERRANEAN_CHASM]
   [UNDERGROUND_DEPTH:3:3]
   [SOLID_DENSITY:1250]
   [TREE_COLOR:4:12:0]
   [DEAD_TREE_COLOR:7:5:0]
   [SAPLING_TILE:141]
   [SAPLING_COLOR:0:4:1]
   [DEAD_SAPLING_COLOR:0:0:1]

(Should look like a small red mushroom - Actually looks like a small green tree.)

[dree12]

That works for me. Regen your world, see if that works. BTW, the blood thorn is being displayed as a light grey i-grave on a red background . You may want to check your tile+colors for that.

[WormSlayer]

Oh... Maybe I should have read the giant sticky at the top of the forum a bit more closely... >.o

Yeah colour typo, should be 4:0:1 and the tile number was random just to see if it made any difference!

[Untelligent]

DROWN_LEVEL and SAPLING_DROWN_LEVEL should be valid tags, it's just that none of the vanilla plants use them because they all have default values.

[dree12]

It's TREE_DROWN_LEVEL. But yeah, it's valid.

[ChickenLips]

If tree sapling tiling works anything like plant shrub tiling does, it assumes a certain default tile (and color) unless you specify otherwise.  That's why some plants have shrub and dead shrub tiles, and others don't.

[Jay]

TREE_DROWN_LEVEL is a valid tag, but unless something's changed recently (very plausible), it doesn't actually have any effect.

[dree12]

Really? Testing...

Hmm, trees seem to block water. I think TREE_DROWN_LEVEL was supposed to have effect, but Toady forgot trees block water. Pouring water on top of them doesn't help either.