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[anacrucis]

So, on the PC version I'm all over the [alt] key for getting in and out of water, etc... but I have just got my first mac ever and I can't for the life of me figure out how to get my adventurer in the water on the mac keyboard. Is there some weird "intuitive" keypress combo to get the "option" key or something to function as "alt" or is it bound to a different key?

[Untelligent]

At any screen, press ESC and open the keybindings menu, then go to Adventurer. There should be a bunch of "careful move" bindings. These are the alt-move keys; you can see what keys you need to press to do that, or change them if necessary.

EDIT: I just realized I have no idea if mac keyboards even have an ESC key. If you don't, start pushing random buttons until you get to a menu with "keybindings" and some other options on it (like "save," and "give into starvation."), or until someone else shows up who knows the right button.

[Argonnek]

What kind of mac do you have? I'm using a mac right this second, and the "option" key is also the "alt" key and functions as it should. Also, mac keyboards do have an "esc" key.

[anacrucis]

thanks for the speedy feedback!

I've got a 13" macbook pro. I'm using a usb numpad which may or may not be complicating things (I had to lie and tell OSX that it was a 101 key kbd).  I'll check out the bindings though. And experiment with adventurer mode movement with the usb keypad disconnected.

EDIT: I should clarify that the option key has /not/ worked for me, but I didn't troubleshoot the numpad thing because it didn't occur to me till now. Time to go mess around with it.

EDIT2: troubleshot. It's the keypad. alt - arrow works, alt - number works, alt - keypad is a no-go. Apple USB extended keyboard w/ keypad works fine.

[anacrucis]

New and unrelated Mac question: when I use the delete key (the one that the rest of the world calls "backspace," not the one on the extended keyboard) I get a ⌂ and nothing gets deleted. Is there a workaround for this or is it just an encoding incompatibility between code sheet 437 and the Mac keyboard I/O whatzit?

[Argonnek]

That is a Mac-only bug that I have also seen. I've yet to find a workaround for it. Try using the backspace/delete key on your extended keyboard, maybe that will help.

[anacrucis]

That is a Mac-only bug that I have also seen. I've yet to find a workaround for it. Try using the backspace/delete key on your extended keyboard, maybe that will help.

I'll give it a try. I had to actually copy and paste the ⌂ out of another source because I couldn't find the character in the mac character insertion utility. Which is why I wonder if the control character for backspace and the house symbol share a code somewhere in the mac UI so what OSX reads as a backspace, DF reads as ⌂.