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Blood on ground = blood out of creature
« on: June 12, 2010, 05:06:25 am »

Suggestion: When a creature leaves a blood smear on the ground, some variable should track the amount of blood lost. :D

Reason: I'm all for 'there was BLOOD EVERYWHERE' as the next person, but this is just ridiculousness. Story, afict: A human wounds an elephant to a general 'yellow' status.
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Re: Blood on ground = blood out of creature
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2010, 06:41:21 am »

Creatures can allready run out of blood, it may take a while but they can thats why in the dwarven health status screen is "blood loss" and "heavy blood loss" for the medical dwarf to diagnose.

About your picture... are you using a big LCD/Plasma/LED TV to play DF on or something  :o
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Re: Blood on ground = blood out of creature
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2010, 02:45:57 pm »

Not only that, but elephants also have a rather large amount of blood, predictably.
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Re: Blood on ground = blood out of creature
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2010, 04:00:31 pm »

What really should happen is that a distinction is made in displaying a drop vs. a smear vs. a puddle of blood. Every drop of blood can make a whole dining room red: that's a bit much.
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Re: Blood on ground = blood out of creature
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2010, 07:24:48 pm »

Hm, I guess there is already that variable... now, I guess I could suggest 'when it leaves a smear, lessen the blood it has'... I'm not sure DF does that.

bluephoenix: I've had a few dwarves die in the hospital of blood loss... darn lazy surgeons! I just think this is a case where that elephant should be drained dead by now. ;)
Untelligent: Yes, but that is a long blood smear. :P
Silverionmox: Hm, I like your idea! I agree, that would be much better.


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Re: Blood on ground = blood out of creature
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2010, 07:38:06 pm »

To be fair, if my calculations are somewhat accurate, the average DF elephant should have about three and a half hundred litres of blood in it (for you imperial types, that's an aquarium big enough for a grown man to squeeze into). Spread about properly, that's one hell of a mess.
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Re: Blood on ground = blood out of creature
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2010, 08:43:27 pm »

True. Very true. ... I'll have to try that sometime.

However, how much of this blood is required for walking? At least 'some', I don't think elephants are 'good to the last drop'. ;D
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Re: Blood on ground = blood out of creature
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2010, 09:21:54 am »

Also, have you ever spilt a pint of milk on the floor? That's an awful big spill for such a tiny amount of milk.

Elephants have roughly 800 pints of blood in their body. That trail you showed wouldn't even make it feel woozy.
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Re: Blood on ground = blood out of creature
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2010, 10:29:47 am »

Actually, the accuracy of that last statement is entirely dependent on the size of the tiles. Teehee.
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Re: Blood on ground = blood out of creature
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2010, 10:22:21 pm »

I figure a tile is about a meter, and given several hundred square meters of blood-covered ground...
Anything should feel woozy.

Also... how much blood is in a 'smear', anyway?

I still feel that elephant should be dead on the ground.
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Re: Blood on ground = blood out of creature
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2010, 10:55:08 pm »

a smear I would guess to be a ml, so not very much
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Re: Blood on ground = blood out of creature
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2010, 11:04:56 pm »

I figure a tile is about a meter, and given several hundred square meters of blood-covered ground...
Anything should feel woozy.

Also... how much blood is in a 'smear', anyway?

I still feel that elephant should be dead on the ground.

Only problem though is that an elephant should cover at least four squares by that method. Then theres the even bigger creatures like dragons and the various titans and megabeasts. A tile can hold 100 dragons with one of them standing, yet a tile can only hold one dwarf with any others prone. Tile size is extrenely abstracted out right now, although there are some figures (height for one) which are now actually measureable.
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Re: Blood on ground = blood out of creature
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2010, 02:18:15 pm »

I figure a tile is about a meter, and given several hundred square meters of blood-covered ground...
Anything should feel woozy.

Also... how much blood is in a 'smear', anyway?

I still feel that elephant should be dead on the ground.

... actually, I'd figure a tile is about 10 feet, or around 3 meters, as tiles are basically meant to be cubes, as far as can be told from the way game mechanics work, and the general standard distance between one story of a building and the next is 10 feet.  Granted, these are dwarves we are talking about, but I would expect the stone ceilings of dwarven caves to be thicker to be bolstered with more supports than a wooden human building.
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Re: Blood on ground = blood out of creature
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2010, 05:17:00 am »

but symbols don't mean
that the whole tile is like that
it's just one feature

Maybe we should ask.
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he made it, you know.
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Re: Blood on ground = blood out of creature
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2010, 05:40:35 pm »

True. [Blue, Boysen, Saskatoon, Straw, Rasp] true.
I suppose it's a DF 'graphical thing'. I can't complain about it... I don't expect that great a detail from ascii graphics. ...That, and the detail level already in is rather impressive.

I suppose it's a sign that the rest of the graphics are so high-quality that I complain. :D


I still say it looks funny, though.

P.S. I've always figured a tile to be about a meter, cubed, with a foot or so of floor above the cube.
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