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Spike GT

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Ice Floors
« on: May 14, 2010, 04:34:05 am »

I just learned something and looking around in the forums I don't see any mention of it, so here goes.  Constructed ice floors will melt when exposed to magma.  I just pumped magma up like 122 stories from the magma sea onto the tundra over my latest fortress.  There are a few little sections of floor that I had paved over with ice about 25 years prior, when I first dug out the first level (because they were just frozen ponds and the wall/floor thing with ice left them exposed), a fix to shield goblin eyes from the first layer of my fort.  Anyway, just uh, look out for that so you don't flood your arctic forts with magma and stuff.
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Flaede

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Re: Ice Floors
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2010, 04:35:57 am »

does magma melt ice walls below it?
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Spike GT

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Re: Ice Floors
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2010, 04:46:51 am »

Dunno, didn't test it.  I'm just putting some orthoclase walls in underneath the remaining floors so that my fortress doesn't get flooded when they melt.

EDIT: Aw, hell.  I'm gonna go ahead and stop the pumps, open the gates and construct some ice block walls just because I want to know.  More as it develops.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2010, 05:01:45 am by Spike GT »
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Rastaan

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Re: Ice Floors
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2010, 06:02:10 am »

Time for science!
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Re: Ice Floors
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2010, 06:08:20 am »

Yea supposedly ice is hardcoded to melt even as a construction, due to it being the primary ore of water and all.  Thats why its so buggy and strange in general. 
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Re: Ice Floors
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2010, 06:10:44 am »

do not visit a glacier fort in adventure mode. You bring the warm weather with you when you reach its map edge. Very strange.
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Spike GT

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Re: Ice Floors
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2010, 06:17:00 am »

Well, the totally-immersed rough ice block pillar is not melting, and neither is the one that is simply surrounded but not covered that I built further afield.  I also went ahead and built a rough ice block ramp, and it's holding too.  I guess it's just floors, then?  Didn't test with fortifications, though...wish I had for the sake of thoroughness, but I don't think it matters much either way.
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Re: Ice Floors
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2010, 06:18:54 am »

Well, the totally-immersed rough ice block pillar is not melting, and neither is the one that is simply surrounded but not covered that I built further afield.  I also went ahead and built a rough ice block ramp, and it's holding too.  I guess it's just floors, then?  Didn't test with fortifications, though...wish I had for the sake of thoroughness, but I don't think it matters much either way.

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Ubiq

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Re: Ice Floors
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2010, 12:00:49 pm »

I constructed some ice fortifications that melted when my river and lake thawed. At first, I thought that they were just submerged by the river, but they weren't listed as existing when I moved the cursor over their former location.

So that's:

Floors - melt
Fortifications - melt
Constructed walls - don't melt
Ramps - don't melt

At a guess, stairs will hold firm as well.

Natural ice walls are, of course, the farmers' best friend.
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Re: Ice Floors
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2010, 12:32:24 pm »

Oh.
That's interesting. It only melts the ones it can sit directly on in the same tile as the construction itself.

Except, oddly, for the stairs and ramps.

Didn't know magma had a preference for the stuff it melts...
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