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Author Topic: Great/awful site. (Oceanside volcano/mountain on island, seed posted)  (Read 1462 times)

Shrike

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So, made a new world, and the only volcano I could find was directly adjacent to an ocean, and part of a mountain.

"Awesome!" I thought. "And it's on an island, so I can get familiar with the new systems before I make another fort with sieges and elves!"

However:

There's no source of desalinized water, and my attempt to make a farming area has been stymied by the channel taking ocean water in to the enclosed sandy area, because waves transmit through the channel... and I can't seem to pump water onto the area to get it to make mud, much less provide drinkable water.


Migrants keep arriving, and there's pretty much no food or drink. It is time for the caravan to arrive, but this isn't sustainable without agriculture.

Any suggestions on how to fix this mess? I'm thinking I should try to dig out a farming area and cistern in solid rock, and work from there, hoping that there's enough booze and food in the first caravan to keep my population alive until I can sustain them.

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[WORLD_GEN]
[TITLE:MEDIUM ISLAND]
[SEED:1253294692]
[HISTORY_SEED:2554802639]
[NAME_SEED:49357383]
[CREATURE_SEED:1879566619]
[DIM:129:129]
[EMBARK_POINTS:1274]
[END_YEAR:1050]
[BEAST_END_YEAR:200:80]
[REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:1]
[CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:0]
[ELEVATION:1:400:1600:1600]
[RAINFALL:0:100:200:200]
[TEMPERATURE:25:75:200:200]
[DRAINAGE:0:100:200:200]
[VOLCANISM:0:100:200:200]
[SAVAGERY:0:100:200:200]
[ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:4:2:0:1:0:1]
[RAIN_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
[DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
[TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
[SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
[VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
[TITAN_NUMBER:9]
[TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:80:0:100000]
[DEMON_NUMBER:28]
[GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:6:63:0]
[EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:6:63:0]
[PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:3]
[PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
[COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:4]
[VOLCANO_MIN:1]
[REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:66:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:66:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:264:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:528:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:528:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:16:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:33:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:528:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:528:0:0]
[EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:250]
[RIVER_MINS:25:25]
[PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:1]
[OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:1]
[SUBREGION_MAX:2750]
[CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:3]
[CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:0]
[CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:100]
[CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:0]
[CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:100]
[CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:0]
[CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:100]
[HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1]
[HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:15]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:5]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:1]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:1]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:1]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:2]
[LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:1]
[CAVE_MIN_SIZE:5]
[CAVE_MIN_SIZE:5]
[CAVE_MAX_SIZE:25]
[MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:5]
[NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:10]
[ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:0]
[SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2]
[TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:10]
[TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:20000]
[PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1]
[ELEVATION_RANGES:8000:1056:528]
[RAIN_RANGES:528:1056:528]
[DRAINAGE_RANGES:528:1056:528]
[SAVAGERY_RANGES:528:1056:528]
[VOLCANISM_RANGES:528:1056:528]

The volcano is about midway down the map, between the mountain icon and red sand desert. It's just standing out in the middle of the ocean.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2010, 08:44:19 pm by Shrike »
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Mungrul

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Re: Great/awful site.
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2010, 11:25:48 am »

Do pumps still desalinate water?
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Re: Great/awful site.
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2010, 11:28:43 am »

They should.  If you pump saltwater through a pump into a cistern made entirely of CONSTRUCTIONS (natural rock, even smoothed, will just re-salinate it again), you can have fresh drinking water.
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Re: Great/awful site.
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2010, 11:29:47 am »

They do - I built a tiny (1x2) aboveground holding tank to get started, then a larger underground cistern for my well. works fine.
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Re: Great/awful site.
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2010, 01:34:16 pm »

Thanks. If there's any interest, I'll post the world/site details. Lots of sand and magma, after all. Great for glass projects, and there's pretty extreme sheer cliffs, too.
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Re: Great/awful site.
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2010, 02:23:54 pm »

Please do post it.  A site like that could come in handy for testing a few designs.  Thanks in advance!
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Re: Great/awful site.
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2010, 01:17:51 pm »

Sure... just trying to figure out how to extract the seed. I'd like to start over on it myself, you see, but not reclaim.
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Re: Great/awful site.
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2010, 02:57:29 pm »

Sure... just trying to figure out how to extract the seed. I'd like to start over on it myself, you see, but not reclaim.


Make a back-up of the folder, in case you want to use the current fortress you have.  Load the backup, abandon the fortress.  Start the world in Legends mode (from the Fortress/Adventure/Legends mode screen).  On screen you should see an option for "export world gen information" or something like that.  Not at home so I can't bring up the screen, but it will create a bunch of files in your DF directory (where the .exe is); one of those has your seeds and all world gen settings.
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Re: Great/awful site.
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2010, 03:18:30 pm »

Is there not fresh water down in the caverns?
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Re: Great/awful site.
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2010, 05:08:05 pm »

Didn't dig down that far. But still, I wasted a lot of time and would rather start anew. And I'll try to get the seed posted tonight, when I get back to my main system.
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Re: Great/awful site. (Oceanside volcano/mountain on island, seed posted)
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2010, 11:22:49 pm »

Dug down. Found a massive cavern. Still trying to find the end of it.
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