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Author Topic: Wood, stone, and bone as substitutes for metal.  (Read 3263 times)

Grek

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Re: Wood, stone, and bone as substitutes for metal.
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2007, 08:43:00 pm »

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wouldnt work unless the cutting edge was 1 molecule wide.</STRONG>


Sure it would. You just have to shatter some diamonds, then cut the other ones with the shards.

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Re: Wood, stone, and bone as substitutes for metal.
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2007, 12:05:00 am »

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Sure it would. You just have to shatter some diamonds, then cut the other ones with the shards.</STRONG>


And youll just pick the molecule wide strip of diamond with your fingers and glue it to a knife edge that is 2 molecules wide?

Wouldnt work without really powerful nano technology afaik

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Re: Wood, stone, and bone as substitutes for metal.
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2007, 01:02:00 am »

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wouldnt work unless the cutting edge was 1 molecule wide.</STRONG>


At that point, wouldn't that be more like random carbon atoms than an actual diamond.

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« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2007, 04:31:00 am »

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So put the diamond on the cutting edges while the rest is metal.</STRONG>


For the last time: This doesn't work.  It gives you an edge covered with nasty disorganized gritty stuff that can't make a straight cut.  Please stop suggesting this unless (1) you can cite an example of anyone making a diamond-encrusted knife, or (2) you've done it yourself and have pictures.

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« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2007, 04:35:00 am »

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For the last time: This doesn't work.  It gives you an edge covered with nasty disorganized gritty stuff that can't make a straight cut.  Please stop suggesting this unless (1) you can cite an example of anyone making a diamond-encrusted knife, or (2) you've done it yourself and have pictures.</STRONG>


Its used to make straight cuts in glass.

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Re: Wood, stone, and bone as substitutes for metal.
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2007, 01:13:00 pm »

The fact that diamonds are excellent for precision blades, saws, drills, grinding tools etc. still does not mean that you could construct an effective sword using them, even with modern technology (let alone dwarven technology).
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Re: Wood, stone, and bone as substitutes for metal.
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2007, 11:33:00 pm »

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http://www.emsdiasum.com/diatome/diamond_knives/
http://www.premiumblade.com/Diamond-Saw-Blades.asp
http://www.diamondsurgicalproducts.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_blade</STRONG>

1 is a blade for a microtome
2 and 4 are "blades" for industrial cutting tools
3 is a surgeons scalpel

None of these have anything to do with a sword blade. 1 and 3 would do jack shit against a metal plate and can be broken with a pair of pliars.

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Its used to make straight cuts in glass.</STRONG>

No, it is used to score a straight gouge in glass, creating a weak point that is then snapped. Actually "cutting" glass as if it was wood or paper can only end in tears.

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Re: Wood, stone, and bone as substitutes for metal.
« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2007, 01:12:00 am »

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1 is a blade for a microtome
2 and 4 are "blades" for industrial cutting tools
3 is a surgeons scalpel

None of these have anything to do with a sword blade. 1 and 3 would do jack shit against a metal plate and can be broken with a pair of pliars.


Lets also not forget that the majority of the "Diamond blades" out there arn't actually blades, but are instead peices of steel which have been impregnated with diamond powder. There are two types of cuts. Cuts that are made by grinding material A against material B, and then there are cuts that are made by pushing pointed/edged object A THROUGH object B. Since it's already been established that if you try to do the former, the gemstone will snap and/or shatter into peices like a cheap peice of glass, so that the only remaining way for a diamond to "cut" is to GRIND its way through the object.
IE, like a Chainsaw, not a sword

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Re: Wood, stone, and bone as substitutes for metal.
« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2007, 06:54:00 pm »

May I suggest that some dwarves in roleplaying and stories use warhammers whose heads are made out of stone? (Heroes and Fools of Dragonlance had one)

However, raining weapons made out of wood would be a perfect addition.

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