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pavlov

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[0.31.01] Military training utterly broken
« on: April 03, 2010, 09:38:39 am »

Dwarfs on individual combat drills can learn more in 10 days than a group with a teacher and students can in 5 months. Also, individual combat drills don't count as being 'active' so they don't get bad thoughts from 'long combat patrol'

5 guys
4 min training

1. adequate org / adequate teacher / adequate leader / competent fighter / novice shield
2.
3. skilled student / competent conc / competent obs
4.
5.

3 months
1.
2. + dabbling fighter / dabbling student / dabbling conc
3. + dabbling fighter
4.  + dabbling fighter / dabbling student / dabbling conc
5.

5 months
new squad: 1 guy for individual combat drills: "A"


5 months + 10 days
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
A. novice fighter / dabbling wrestler/striker/dodger/

7 months
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
A. skilled fighter / adequate wrestler/striker / dabbling dodger
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pavlov

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Re: [0.31.01] Military training utterly broken
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2010, 09:46:09 am »

Addendum: When I inactivate the squad, they start learning faster and more skills... hmm.
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Re: [0.31.01] Military training utterly broken
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2010, 09:49:55 am »

I am not sure millitary training is enough understood to comment on this.
But I noticed my dwarfs learn hardly anything.
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pavlov

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Re: [0.31.01] Military training utterly broken
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2010, 09:56:21 am »

I figured it out. They only train when they are inactivated (non-solid colors)! If they are standing around in solid colors, they are only pretending to train, not actually training. So don't set your 'minimum' down in order to 'activate them', let them train in their civilian mode!
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Re: [0.31.01] Military training utterly broken
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2010, 10:33:13 am »

Yeah, they were training in civilian colors...
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Re: [0.31.01] Military training utterly broken
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2010, 10:41:45 am »

I haven't seen my dwarf sparring nor shooting anytime.
All preparations for training is made by guide properly, and dwarfs just standing around and waiting\watching presentations; is actual training yet broken?
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Re: [0.31.01] Military training utterly broken
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2010, 10:47:32 am »

I am not sure millitary training is enough understood to comment on this.
But I noticed my dwarfs learn hardly anything.

Same. My military squad of 6 dwarves has just about got to adequate wrestling in over a year.
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Re: [0.31.01] Military training utterly broken
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2010, 10:51:59 am »

I haven't seen my dwarf sparring nor shooting anytime.
All preparations for training is made by guide properly, and dwarfs just standing around and waiting\watching presentations; is actual training yet broken?

That would explain a lot.
I noticed my dwarves are only ever on 'private weapon drill' or something like that. Now my squadleader is just as bad in everything as they are, so that would explain why they just wont get better than dabbling.
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Re: [0.31.01] Military training utterly broken
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2010, 12:59:15 pm »

My marksdwarves only train crossbows if I set them (with s - t ) to 'Sched - active/training', THEN set them to "Sched - ". They will shoot at the archery targets for a bit. then I have to repeat the process
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Urist McDepravity

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Re: [0.31.01] Military training utterly broken
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2010, 05:17:04 am »

7 months
Did they get any increase in 'Observer'/'Student'/'Leader'/'Organiser'/'Teacher' skills?
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