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deoxy

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wielding very heavy objects
« on: March 26, 2010, 08:26:32 pm »
Perhaps this should go in modding, since it relates to that, but here it is:

I was wanting to create a weapon somewhere in between the crossbow and the ballista - something that was aimable like a normal weapon, and that wasn't auto-death for anything in its path, but that couldn't be easily toted around like a normal weapon...

So I made a "heavy crossbow" that is RIDICULOUSLY heavy - the wooden version weighs 7000.  Dwarves can (and do) haul objects that heavy, they just do so very slowly.... but when I try to have this weapon used, it gets repeatedly picked up dropped, dozens of times.  Eventually, I find that it is being wielded and carried (slowly, as intended), but I didn't see any particular reason why it changed - the same dwarf that before had picked it up (I saw it in his inventory, with "multi-grasp" as how it was held) and dropped it, walked 2-4 spaces away and then returned to "pickup equipment", dozens of times while I watched now had it in his possession and was just moving very slowly.

Anybody have any ideas what's going on with that?
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Re: wielding very heavy objects
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2010, 08:29:18 pm »
dwarves can only wield weapons up to a certain size.
Also, dwarves can only wield weapons above a certain size (and below that other certain size) when told they are allowed to do it two-handedly, in the [m]ilitary menues.

[edit] but rereading it seems you thought of that. I have no clue what's up with that.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2010, 08:34:19 pm by Flaede »
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Re: wielding very heavy objects
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2010, 08:31:26 pm »
It has the same wielding requirements as a normal crossbow, it just does more damage (actually, it's ammo does more damage....) and is VERY heavy.
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Re: wielding very heavy objects
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2010, 11:37:00 am »
If it was being wielded "Multigrasp", then you did make it two-handed.
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Re: wielding very heavy objects
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2010, 08:55:59 pm »
Maybe the dwarf's stats weren't high enough to carry it at first, but the pickup attempts strengthened them? Maybe? I dunno, do stats work like that? Can you train idle folks up by making them carry rocks?
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Re: wielding very heavy objects
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2010, 11:12:08 pm »
No, stats are increased through gaining skills.
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Re: wielding very heavy objects
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2010, 01:07:22 am »
Quote from: Quietust on March 27, 2010, 11:37:00 am
If it was being wielded "Multigrasp", then you did make it two-handed.

Bloody crap, somehow the file got reverted (that was something I messed with when I very first tried this, a couple of months ago).  I've fixed it, and I'll test again...  but still, he eventually did walk off with it, which is weird...
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