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Akivara

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Is this stealing?
« on: March 29, 2010, 06:04:52 am »

I deconstructed my trade depot out from under the traders because I wanted to move it.  All of their stuff exploded out of their wagons and now the game treats it as belonging to me.  Will this count as stealing and will my dwarves get in trouble for it?
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Julius Clonkus

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Re: Is this stealing?
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2010, 06:16:02 am »

I think there is not so much "stealing" in this but the merchants will be pissed because they leave with nothing on them, which means there's a lot of negative profit for them. And that mostly hurts how much they bring you next year.
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Jimmy

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Re: Is this stealing?
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2010, 06:18:54 am »

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Known bug. You're advised not to deconstruct the depot after the traders arrive. They track their wealth entering the map and compare it to their wealth leaving the map. Results showing positive gain result in positive relations, and negative gain will result in hostilities.
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Akivara

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Re: Is this stealing?
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2010, 08:33:54 am »

It's the dwarven traders, so hostilities isn't a problem...

I quit without saving to before they arrived (I run df from the terminal, and if I close that window it also closes the df window without saving) so it's a moot point now, but --

If I give them their stuff back before they leave at the new depot, will that fix it?
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Re: Is this stealing?
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2010, 10:39:58 am »

I think the only way to 'fix' it would be to conduct some trades that are profitable for them for the next few times they come by.  Since it is the dwarves you don't have to worry about angering them, so you can work to bring their attitude back up by giving them lots of profit over the next few years.
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Satarus

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Re: Is this stealing?
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2010, 11:06:30 am »

IIRC, Everything you took from the dwarves will still considered to be "stolen" so you will not be able to trade it back to them unless you convert it to your fortresses created items.  This means by processing (smelt, brew, cook) it or decorating it.
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