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[C4lv1n]

Ok, so that's the most imaginative title I could come up with for my question post, and I have two questios:

First: I'm in a cold climate, and I want to know, when the brook I'm near freezes, if I were to dam it what would happen to the water? Would anything past the dam dry up eventually? And would the brook flood?

Second: Is spamming "Make rock short sword" a viable economic strategey? I'm early in the game, and while my mason isn't trained in stonecrafting, he can make them pretty fast.

Third (Bonus surprise question!): If it's not a good idea, I happen to have magma (With 3 the three furnaces, but no forge), plenty of copper (Starting to make it into bars), a sand layer, and a crapload of trees. Using those materials can I make anything better?

Fourth (Ok, I lied): Do you like pie?

[ragnaroki]

2) By economic strategy do you mean as in making goods for trading?
if so then I suggest that you export prepared meals instead. either proccess sweet pods into syrup. and then cook them or cook your booze.

[C4lv1n]

2) By economic strategy do you mean as in making goods for trading?
if so then I suggest that you export prepared meals instead. either proccess sweet pods into syrup. and then cook them or cook your booze.

Yeah that's what I mean, and I have been preparing meals, but I am reluctant to trade them, or to cook my booze, what am I supposed to do for food if I'm exporting all of it?

EDIT:: Is making rock swords still a viable strategey? If used instead of/with the prepared meals?

[sunshaker]

Brooks are weird, I'm not sure it will freeze (that top walkable layer does odd things), rivers on the other hand...

Rock Short Swords are AWESOME! They are as effective as steel (133% damage)). I'm not sure if they are worth selling though (and because they use wood Elves won't buy them). It would be better to spam make other crafts until the Mason is a decent level and then make the swords (Masterful Obsidian Swords are SCARY Sharp at 266% damage).

You will need better material for armor though, request Tin (and iron and steel and flux stones) from the Traders, Tin will let you turn your Copper (66% damage/resistance) into Bronze (75% damage/resistance). Use the Bronze as starting armor until you can get enough Iron and Steel and Flux to equip your troops with the good stuff (and as a way of gaining experience). Spam Glass crafts to get the cash to buy those things, sand + magma = wood free glass with a low investment cost (Elves will buy it), you will need lots of bags to collect the sand.

[Edit] Or food, food makes lots of money (but it feels a bit like an exploit to me, but thats my opinion).

[C4lv1n]

Brooks are weird, I'm not sure it will freeze (that top walkable layer does odd things), rivers on the other hand...

The brook does freeze, like I said, cold climate, so it was frozen when I arrived, but will it flood?

[C4lv1n]

Yay! I just struck aluminum!

[Quietust]

1. Beyond the dam, the brook will dry up. Before the dam, the brook will not overflow unless there's a waterfall upstream.

2. If you can make rock short swords, then you're better off making obsidian mugs - weapons have the same base value as other finished goods, and mugs are made in sets of 3 and thus get you 3 times the money while also leaving the wood available for making other useful things (like beds, bins, barrels, or pearlash for clear glass). The only trouble is that you'll have to get rid of all of your other available stones so your stone crafters only use obsidian.

[C4lv1n]

...The only trouble is that you'll have to get rid of all of your other available stones so your stone crafters only use obsidian.

... god I hate micromanaging...
I'm just gonna make the rock swords, my obsidian farm works well enough that I don't need to worry about running out of obsidian, and I'm to lazy to make a system of obsidian only crafting.

EDIT:: I also have plenty of wood, enough that I acctually need to cut out an area for the wagons to get thru.

But thanks man...





.... I wanted to flood everything...

[Rolan7]

Don't worry about forbidding all stones but obsidian.  I'd actually rather set aside the obsidian itself, even though it makes more valuable crafts, because nice sharp swords are more useful than any craft.

I haven't made crafts for a long time.  Food value may be broken, but it's just dumb to have to select each bin of crafts in the trader menu.  I've heard some people make mechanisms to sell, which may be a good compromise (even thematic!).  They're heavy though, so it'll be harder to fit a lot into the caravan.

[nenjin]

NM, misread your post.

[JamPet]

Smelt the aluminum and make some goblets.  Aluminum crazy valuable, even if you have an inexperienced metalcrafter you'll be able to make some great value items.  If you have an experienced metalcrafter, then heyyyy!

[Jacob/Lee]

...The only trouble is that you'll have to get rid of all of your other available stones so your stone crafters only use obsidian.

... god I hate micromanaging...
I'm just gonna make the rock swords, my obsidian farm works well enough that I don't need to worry about running out of obsidian, and I'm to lazy to make a system of obsidian only crafting.

EDIT:: I also have plenty of wood, enough that I acctually need to cut out an area for the wagons to get thru.

But thanks man...





.... I wanted to flood everything...

Create an obsidian only stone pile next the the workshops.

[Ashery]

Or just use this: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=11

It allows all stones to be controlled via the stone tab in the stocks screen. Just disable all stone but obsidian and your crafters will go to town.

[Garrie]

.... I wanted to flood everything...

Screw pump tower.

Wall off the brook or build a floor over it so that the plains don't drain back into it.
Build a screw pump and a few water wheels.
Brooks have "infinate" water...

Oh yeah. One benefit of making rock shortswords is you will start to get swordsdwarves turn up once you have made your first sword... they will bring steel weapons if your civ has steel.

[EvilTwin]

4) depends... Yes to the one with 'e',
                   No to the one without