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[JesusAChrist]

Ok, after playing for almost a year I finally found my way to the HFS and to be honest i'm totally underwhelmed.  After getting excited and getting my military ready only two fire spirits came out and were quickly taken down by a couple marksdwarves.  Sure I get some pretty blue metal out of the deal and a cool little torture room but...  I dunno I was expecting more.

[Deon]

If you had 15-20 SoF, you'd be happy.

[JesusAChrist]

Probably.  I was expecting a battle of epic proportions but all I got was a few less bolts and some ash.

[Noble Digger]

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There's a whole lot of randomness in this game, sometimes that's unfortunate. As it happens, HFS is one of the final\central things to deal with in your fort so having a weak population there is a sad day. I've had one that was only a sparsely-populated 3 levels. In my current fort there is HFS with 5 or 6 major levels and scattered Adamantine up down and sideways, 50+ stealthed units (I don't know which kind!) in addition to whatever prisoners are being molested. Never think of your current fort as your last fort or your only fort My current plan to deal with this as my pop cap is 45, is to breed Giant Cave Spiders and then connect their lair to the HFS. :O

[JesusAChrist]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

There's a whole lot of randomness in this game, sometimes that's unfortunate. As it happens, HFS is one of the final\central things to deal with in your fort so having a weak population there is a sad day. I've had one that was only a sparsely-populated 3 levels. In my current fort there is HFS with 5 or 6 major levels and scattered Adamantine up down and sideways, 50+ stealthed units (I don't know which kind!) in addition to whatever prisoners are being molested. Never think of your current fort as your last fort or your only fort My current plan to deal with this as my pop cap is 45, is to breed Giant Cave Spiders and then connect their lair to the HFS. :O

Ok that's good to know, I thought it was more of a static thing placed throughout worldgen.  I'll just have to hope for a 6 level one on my next embark.

[Blargityblarg]

Hm. I thought they only ever had four populated levels, and that they had 31 clowns, including the ringmaster. Make sure that all of the levels are connected to your fort easily, Jesus, though by the sounds of it you already have. Also check your units list; some of the Clowns may have died inexplicably, and the ringmaster almost certainly did (he can't handle !!clowns'!! temperature.)

And Noble Digger? Unless you're using some wacky mods, you should be able to tell what kind of circus you have. Ribbit clowns have pools of water and craptons of vermin, hentai clowns have absurd numbers of prisoners, plus naughty engravings, and !!clowns!! have charcoal and things, which quickly catch fire. Disregard the bottom level, as it's just got the decoration of the Ringmaster, which never changes.

[Sir Reginald Bathwater]

Be thankful. I lost a very nice fortress to the door crushing, spike melting, ambushing, floating, fiery bastards.

[lastofthelight]

HFS is much harder if you don't know its there. On the new version I intend to do something I've never done before; avoid spoilers. Speaking of, dear GOD am I ansty for this bug testing to be over.

[RandomNumberGenerator]

HFS is much harder if you don't know its there. On the new version I intend to do something I've never done before; avoid spoilers. Speaking of, dear GOD am I ansty for this bug testing to be over.

Same. It's easy to get through if you know how to prepare. I almost consider HFS cheating because of the insane value of the blue stuff and how underwhelmingly easy it is to deal with the clowns.

[Untelligent]

Yeah. Hell, a handful of champion hammerdwarves can take on the whole army of SoF. That doesn't seem right. They should at least catch fire at some point in the fight, even if they're not wearing any clothes underneath the armor. Which itself doesn't seem quite right.