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[anewaname]

Reform also won't happen until there is enough of an ethical base within the general populace to support an ethical leader. Until that happens, every new administration will be full of grifters because foreign "investors" will help to empower grifters.

Also, I was reminded of this Daily Show clip.

[Duuvian]

feelo, I don't know why you keep insulting me, or misinterpreting things.

This appeared to me to be a disaster in the making. You are welcome for the warning. It looked like a setup to get knocked down, and I posted about it to help someone with feelings like you. Frankly though I'm done responding to you altogether. Have fun twistin' I guess

[feelotraveller]

Except it turned out not to be a disaster at all.  The protests achieved their initial specific aim - the finance bill was revoked, at least for now.  Without the continued protests it would have undoubtedly passed.  Arguably the protest movement also took a small step towards building the ethical base anewaname mentioned.  That the Kenyan government went the murdering/disappearing people route is nothing new and not something that the protestors can be held responsible for.  In the bigger picture reform from within the system in Kenya is currently blocked so the the only options are to accept or protest.

Since you insist on persisting with the conspiracy theories: who was it that made the 'setup'?  (I figure you'll just ignore this question like a bunch of others I've asked but it's worth a try.)

Edit: Lastest news from Kenya indicates even greater success
Kenyan president sacks cabinet after anti-tax protests

Edit2: This one goes into a bit more detail about what the protestors have been demanding (and recieving) politically:
Big win for Gen Z as Ruto dissolves Cabinet
The tldr; lots of cleaning up of government corruption.

[Duuvian]

Ok

You win

I was never able to accomplish anything useful doing this kind of work.

I quit.

I wish you all the best and more succes than I had in all parts of life.

[ggamer]

lol internet arguments. Uh, I don't really quite feel like reading all that? I'm aware this might sound like me jumping in to question another person's legitimacy or something, but it really is just an idea I had on seeing the Africa Thread. I'll go back through another time and check out the discussion so far

Are there any primary sources living (or have lived) in Africa that wanna talk about what's going on there? There's a lot of political motion on the continent, but i've been so consumed with US election cycle bullshit the past year or so that outside of very notable North Africa stuff I don't know shit about the continent.

If you live there, where ya from, how are things for you, what kind of things do you think are important or that you're worried about?

If you lived there, where'd ya live, how was your time there, what'd you get up to, what things were important or worried you?

No expectations or anything, but I think that'd be a good thread to add to the overall Africa Thread

[feelotraveller]

Are there any primary sources living (or have lived) in Africa that wanna talk about what's going on there?

Yeah, it'd be great.  I'm not sure that such sources exist on the forum.  Barring that I reckon the best option is to try to prioritise links to primary sources from africans.  (Africa is a big, diverse place, though.)

There are a couple of videos contained in this article (from today) which give some voice to a couple of kenyan activists https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/16/new-antigovernment-protests-kick-off-in-kenya-with-calls-for-ruto-to-quit - enough to give a bit of a taste of what it is like there at the moment.

[ggamer]

Are there any primary sources living (or have lived) in Africa that wanna talk about what's going on there?

Yeah, it'd be great.  I'm not sure that such sources exist on the forum.  Barring that I reckon the best option is to try to prioritise links to primary sources from africans.  (Africa is a big, diverse place, though.)

There are a couple of videos contained in this article (from today) which give some voice to a couple of kenyan activists https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/16/new-antigovernment-protests-kick-off-in-kenya-with-calls-for-ruto-to-quit - enough to give a bit of a taste of what it is like there at the moment.

TY For the links my friend

[Duuvian]

Wow, I looked a few posts up and I have to say, never quit nicotine young people, I forgot how low I was feeling a few time units ago by feelings created from suspecting a LOOMING PURGE + doing that (any human is far better off never trying nicotine). You see I was saddenned by finding it difficult to find the best way to quit nicotine. The one I found was the local measurement of 6mg (per unremembered volume) refillable vapesauce stepped down to 3mg and then to none, then along with a few shots of non-prescription Dextromethorphan-only cough syrup and days I didn't have to drive anywhere (which in any direction is always past a store with nicotine) or have social responsibilities to attend for like, a whole week at least. No wonder that quitting that shit's notorious hard to do. Totally do not recommend.

Now, on to some thread related stuff.

I heard on the radio that Ghana is having food price issues. Now, I get that doesn't mean the solution is to throw US corn at the place. But look at it!

https://www.dtnpf.com/agriculture/web/ag/news/business-inputs/article/2024/07/02/farmers-hold-3-bb-corn-farm-storage

The radio said it was things like tomatoes that were pricey. Would shipping some of all this corn in the near term along with some things like tomato SEED be a good idea in the medium term? As in next harvest will I hear about a lack of tomatoes again on NPR BBC World Service again with this idea?

[Maximum Spin]

As in next harvest will I hear about a lack of tomatoes again on NPR BBC World Service again with this idea?

Yes.