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[dakenho]

so, I want to mod up things a bit and here is what i want to do
take Orc mod and
replace Orcs with dragons
thats right I want to fight an army of mega beasts
ontop of this I want there war animals to be Giant Cave Spiders And War Elephents
here is what I have to start with please let me know if i am on the right track
[CREATURE:DRAGON]
   [NAME:dragon:dragons:draconic]
   [TILE:'D'][COLOR:2:0:0]
   [GLOWTILE:'"'][GLOWCOLOR:4:0:1]
   [DRAGONFIREBREATH][FIREIMMUNE_SUPER]
   [GENPOWER:2]
   [EVIL]
   [NOPAIN]
   [NOFEAR]
   [MODVALUE:3]
   [FANCIFUL]
   [MEGABEAST]
   CAN_SPEAK[CAN_LEARN][CAN_CIV][liKES_FIGHTING][trAPAVOID][WEBIMMUNE]
   [CANOPENDOORS]
   [liKES_FIGHTING]
   [PREFSTRING:terrifying features]
   [PREFSTRING:savagery]
   [PREFSTRING:fearlessness]
   [BODY:QUADRUPED:TAIL:2EYES:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:MOUTH]
   [BODYGLOSS:CLAW_FOOT]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:GRASP:punch:punches:4:8:BLUDGEON][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
   [ATTACK:SECOND:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:4:8:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
   [CHILD:3][BABY:1][liTTERSIZE:6:10]
   [SIZE:8]
   [SPEED:800]
   [DAMBLOCK:4]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:6:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
   [FAT:10]
   [STANDARD_FLESH]
   [HOMEOTHERM:10067]
   [LAYERING:10]
   [SWIMS_LEARNED][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
   [PERSONALITY:ANGER:20:60:100]
   [PERSONALITY:IMMODERATION:20:60:100]
   [PERSONALITY:EXCITEMENT_SEEKING:80:90:100]
   [PERSONALITY:ACTIVITY_LEVEL:70:85:100]
   [PERSONALITY:CHEERFULNESS:0:40:90]
   [PERSONALITY:ALTRUISM:0:50:100]
   [PERSONALITY:SYMPATHY:0:5:10]
   [PERSONALITY:VULNERABILITY:0:5:10]
   [PERSONALITY:ANXIETY:0:10:20]
   [PERSONALITY:FRIENDLINESS:50:75:100]
   [PERSONALITY:ASSERTIVENESS:100:100:100]
   [PERSONALITY:COOPERATION:70:85:100]
   [HOMEOTHERM:10040]

will this ensure that every dragon that shows up are as strong as a mega beast that shows up?

[Lancensis]

Well, size 8 isn't very large for a Dragon. I'm not sure if adding [CAN_CIV] and [MEGABEAST] to a creature will cause complications, or not, but I'd be curious to see what happened.

[Haspen]

Anything with [MEGABEAST] or [SEMIMEGEBEAST] prevents:
-Making civs
-Breeding of the species.

Also, you can use [INTELLIGENT] than [CAN_LEARN][CAN_SPEAK][CAN_CIV] (yes, that first one is just all those three in one.)

[dakenho]

thanks haspen, I thought I had copped the size over from the dragon but i will make the changes and test it, than to add it so they bring GCS's.

[dakenho]

so my dragons are not surviving world gen here is what i have so far
creature_dragon

[OBJECT:CREATURE]

[CREATURE:DIRE_WOLF]
   [NAME:dire wolf:dire wolves:dire wolf]
   [TILE:'w'][COLOR:7:0:0]
   [MODVALUE:3]
   [LARGE_ROAMING][FREQUENCY:7]
   [POPULATION_NUMBER:10:20]


and

entity_dragon

[OBJECT:ENTITY]

[ENTITY:HOARD]
   [CREATURE:dragon]
   [trANSLATION:dragon]
   [DIGGER:ITEM_WEAPON_PICK]
   
   [trAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_GIANTAXEBLADE]
   [trAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_ENORMOUSCORKSCREW]
   [trAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_SPIKEDBALL]
   [trAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_LARGESERRATEDDISC]
   [trAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_MENACINGSPIKE]

   [CURRENCY:COPPER:1]
   [CURRENCY:SILVER:5]
   [CURRENCY:GOLD:15]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:WAR:NAME_WAR]
   [SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:WAR:VIOLENT]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:BATTLE:NAME_BATTLE]
   [SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:BATTLE:VIOLENT]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:SIEGE:NAME_SIEGE]
   [SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:SIEGE:VIOLENT]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:UGLY]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:UNTOWARD]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:ROAD:NAME_ROAD]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:TUNNEL:NAME_TUNNEL]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:BRIDGE:NAME_BRIDGE]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:WALL:NAME_WALL]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:REMAINING:EVIL]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:DOMESTIC]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:FLOWERY]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:HOLY]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:PEACE]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:NEGATOR]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:GOOD]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:ARTIFICE]
   [STONE_PREF]
   [USE_EVIL_ANIMALS]
   [USE_EVIL_PLANTS]
   [USE_EVIL_WOOD]
   [USE_ANIMAL_PRODUCTS]
   [USE_MISC_PROCESSED_WOOD_PRODUCTS]
   [EQUIPMENT_IMPROVEMENTS]
   [ABUSE_BODIES]
   [SPHERE_ALIGNMENT:WAR:512]
   [ART_FACET_MODIFIER:GOOD:0]
   [ART_FACET_MODIFIER:EVIL:512]
   [FRIENDLY_COLOR:5:0:1]
   [DEFAULT_SITE_TYPE:DARK_FORTRESS]
   [liKES_SITE:DARK_FORTRESS]
   [TOLERATES_SITE:DARK_FORTRESS]
   [TOLERATES_SITE:CAVE]
   [TOLERATES_SITE:CITY]
   [CAN_HAVE_MILITARY_SITE_LEADER]
   [START_BIOME:ANY_GRASSLAND]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_WETLAND:4]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_DESERT:2]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_FOREST:4]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_OCEAN:2]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_LAKE:2]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:MOUNTAIN:3]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_GRASSLAND:4]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_SAVANNA:4]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_SHRUBLAND:4]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_RIVER:1]
   [PROGRESS_TRIGGER_POPULATION:1]
   [PROGRESS_TRIGGER_PRODUCTION:2]
   [PROGRESS_TRIGGER_TRADE:1]
   [ACTIVE_SEASON:SUMMER]
   [ACTIVE_SEASON:WINTER]
   [MAX_STARTING_CIV_NUMBER:100]
   [START_GROUP_NUMBER:10]
   [MAX_POP_NUMBER:10000]
   [MAX_SITE_POP_NUMBER:250]
   [RELIGION:PANTHEON]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:CHAOS]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:WAR]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:BLIGHT]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:DARKNESS]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:DEATH]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:NIGHTMARES]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:VICTORY]
   [BEAST_HUNTER]
   [SCOUT]
   [OUTDOOR_FARMING]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:MINER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:CARPENTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BOWYER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:WOODCUTTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ENGRAVER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:MASON]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_CARETAKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_TRAINER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:HUNTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:TRAPPER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_DISSECTOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:FURNACE_OPERATOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:WEAPONSMITH]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ARMORER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BLACKSMITH]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:METALCRAFTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:GEM_CUTTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:GEM_SETTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:WOODCRAFTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:STONECRAFTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:LEATHERWORKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BONE_CARVER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:WEAVER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:GLASSMAKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:FISHERMAN]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:FISH_DISSECTOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:FISH_CLEANER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:COOK]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BUTCHER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:TANNER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:DYER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:HERBALIST]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BREWER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:LYE_MAKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:WOOD_BURNER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:MECHANIC]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:SIEGE_ENGINEER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:SIEGE_OPERATOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:PUMP_OPERATOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ARCHITECT]
   [WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:BRIDGE]
   [ETHIC:KILL_ENTITY_MEMBER:UNTHINKABLE]
   [ETHIC:KILL_NEUTRAL:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:KILL_ENEMY:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:KILL_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:KILL_PLANT:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:TORTURE_AS_EXAMPLE:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_INFORMATION:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_FUN:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:TORTURE_ANIMALS:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:TREASON:UNTHINKABLE]
   [ETHIC:OATH_BREAKING:UNTHINKABLE]
   [ETHIC:LYING:UNTHINKABLE]
   [ETHIC:VANDALISM:PERSONAL_MATTER]
   [ETHIC:TRESPASSING:PERSONAL_MATTER]
   [ETHIC:THEFT:PERSONAL_MATTER]
   [ETHIC:ASSAULT:UNTHINKABLE]
   [ETHIC:SLAVERY:PERSONAL_MATTER]
   [ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_OTHER:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_KILL:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAME_RACE:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAPIENT:ACCEPTABLE]
   [ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]






   [CLUSTER_NUMBER:3:5]
   [LARGE_PREDATOR][MEANDERER][SAVAGE]
   [CARNIVORE]
   [PETVALUE:250]
   [GRASSTRAMPLE:0][NATURAL][PET][trAINABLE]
   [PREFSTRING:unbridaled feral nature]
   [PREFSTRING:intimidating howls]
   [PREFSTRING:stamina-built bodies]
   [PREFSTRING:bulky, double-layered coats]
   [PREFSTRING:social predatory lifestyle]
   [PREFSTRING:enormous pointy teeth]
   [BODY:QUADRUPED:TAIL:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:MOUTH]
   [BODYGLOSS:PAW]
   [SIZE:9]
   [MAXAGE:10:20]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:6:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
   [CHILD:1][CHILDNAME:dire wolf pup:dire wolf pups]
   [liTTERSIZE:2:4]
   [FAT:3]
   [DIURNAL]
   [BIOME:TUNDRA]
   [BIOME:FOREST_TAIGA]
   [BIOME:ANY_TEMPERATE_FOREST]
   [BIOME:SHRUBLAND_TEMPERATE]
   [STANDARD_FLESH]
   [HOMEOTHERM:10070]
   [LAYERING:200]
   [SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
   [MUNDANE]

[CREATURE:SPIDER_WOOD_GIANT]
   [NAME:giant wolf spider:giant wolf spiders:giant wolf spider]
   [TILE:'S'][COLOR:6:0:0]
   [MODVALUE:10]
   [LARGE_ROAMING][FREQUENCY:20][DIFFICULTY:3]
   [EXTRACT:giant wood spider venom:7:0:0]
   [EXTRACT_VALUE:100]
   [EXTRACT_PARALYZE][NATURAL][PET_EXOTIC][PETVALUE:400]
   [EXTRACT_ANTIDOTE:giant wood spider antivenin:7:0:0:100]
   [WEBBER][THICKWEB][WEBIMMUNE][AMBUSHPREDATOR][PARALYZEIMMUNE][trAPAVOID]
   [LARGE_PREDATOR]
      [trAINABLE][EVIL][MOUNT]
   [GENPOWER:4]
   [BLOODTYPE:W][CHITIN]
   [GRASSTRAMPLE:10]
   [CARNIVORE]
   [NOPAIN][EXTRAVISION][NOSTUN][NOEMOTION][NOSKULL][NOBONES]
   [NOFEAR]
   [PREFSTRING:thick, spined legs]
   [PREFSTRING:pack hunting]
   [PREFSTRING:dripping fangs]
   [BODY:SPIDER:2EYES:HEART:GUTS:BRAIN:MOUTH]
   [SIZE:10][SPEED:600]
   [LAYERING:100]
      [liTTERSIZE:2:6]
   [CHILD:5][CHILDNAME:giant wood spiderling:giant wood spiderlings]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:6:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH][SPECIALATTACK_INJECT_EXTRACT:50:100]
   [FAT:1]
   [NO_SLEEP]
   [ALL_ACTIVE]
   [POPULATION_NUMBER:6:12]
   [CLUSTER_NUMBER:3:4]
   [BIOME:ANY_FOREST]
   [HOMEOTHERM:10067]
   [STANDARD_FLESH]
[CREATURE:DRAGON]
   [NAME:dragon:dragons:draconic]
   [TILE:'D'][COLOR:2:0:0]
   [GLOWTILE:'"'][GLOWCOLOR:4:0:1]
   [DRAGONFIREBREATH][FIREIMMUNE_SUPER]
   [GENPOWER:2]
   [EVIL]
   [NOPAIN]
   [NOFEAR]
   [MODVALUE:3]
   [FANCIFUL]
   CAN_SPEAK[CAN_LEARN][CAN_CIV][liKES_FIGHTING][trAPAVOID][WEBIMMUNE]
   [CANOPENDOORS]
   [liKES_FIGHTING]
   [PREFSTRING:terrifying features]
   [PREFSTRING:savagery]
   [PREFSTRING:fearlessness]
   [BODY:QUADRUPED:TAIL:2EYES:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:MOUTH]
   [BODYGLOSS:CLAW_FOOT]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:GRASP:punch:punches:4:8:BLUDGEON][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
   [ATTACK:SECOND:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:4:8:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
   [CHILD:3][BABY:1][liTTERSIZE:6:10]
   [SIZE:20]
   [SPEED:800]
   [DAMBLOCK:4]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:6:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
   [FAT:10]
   [STANDARD_FLESH]
   [HOMEOTHERM:10067]
   [LAYERING:10]
   [SWIMS_LEARNED][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
   [PERSONALITY:ANGER:20:60:100]
   [PERSONALITY:IMMODERATION:20:60:100]
   [PERSONALITY:EXCITEMENT_SEEKING:80:90:100]
   [PERSONALITY:ACTIVITY_LEVEL:70:85:100]
   [PERSONALITY:CHEERFULNESS:0:40:90]
   [PERSONALITY:ALTRUISM:0:50:100]
   [PERSONALITY:SYMPATHY:0:5:10]
   [PERSONALITY:VULNERABILITY:0:5:10]
   [PERSONALITY:ANXIETY:0:10:20]
   [PERSONALITY:FRIENDLINESS:50:75:100]
   [PERSONALITY:ASSERTIVENESS:100:100:100]
   [PERSONALITY:COOPERATION:70:85:100]
   [HOMEOTHERM:10040]

[CREATURE:WAR_ELEPHANT]
   [NAME:armored war elephant:armored war elephants:elephant]
   [TILE:'E'][COLOR:7:0:0]
   [LARGE_ROAMING]
   [MODVALUE:3]
   [GENPOWER:3]
   [PREFSTRING:enormous crudely-armored bulk]
   [PREFSTRING:resounding war trumpeting]
   [IVORY]
   [DIURNAL]
   [EVIL][LARGE_PREDATOR][MOUNT][trAINABLE]
   [POPULATION_NUMBER:15:30]
   [CLUSTER_NUMBER:3:7]
   [PET_EXOTIC]
   [PETVALUE:1500]
   [BUILDINGDESTROYER:1]
   [NOFEAR][NOPAIN]
   [BODY:QUADRUPED:TAIL:2EYES:2EARS:TRUNK:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:MOUTH:2TUSKS]
   [SIZE:17]
   [DAMBLOCK:6]
   [MAXAGE:50:70]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:STANCE:kick:kicks:1:2:BLUDGEON][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
   [ATTACK:SECOND:BYTOKEN:RTUSK:tusk:tusks:2:12:GORE]
   [ATTACK:SECOND:BYTOKEN:LTUSK:tusk:tusks:2:12:GORE]
   [CHILD:10][CHILDNAME:elephant calf:elephant calves]
   [FAT:10]
   [BIOME:ANY_TROPICAL_FOREST]
   [BIOME:SHRUBLAND_TROPICAL]
   [STANDARD_FLESH]
   [HOMEOTHERM:10066]
   [SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
   [MUNDANE]
any thoughts as to why my dragons are not surviing world gen?

[Haspen]

Either you didn't copied whole creature_dragon...

...really, it's like ~20% of creature you have there. No attacks, biomes, multitude of other tags.

[mission0]

Either you didn't copied whole creature_dragon...

...really, it's like ~20% of creature you have there. No attacks, biomes, multitude of other tags.

You are looking at the dire wolves which for some  reason have the dragon entity in them.

also i'm not sure if two main attacks are possible, that may be causing some problems.

[3]

also i'm not sure if two main attacks are possible

Definitely is possible.

[wagawaga]

If a creature has more than one main attack, it will use one at random.

[mission0]

well other than that this is a fairly powerful creature and should be able to survive worldgen, heck it breeds more than most of the orc mods I've seen.

What exactly is happening in the world that kills off all of them? Check around the legends.

[dakenho]

it looks like the dragons never civ for some reason, not sure what is killing them off

are there any other tokens that prevents civing?

[mission0]

it looks like the dragons never civ for some reason, not sure what is killing them off

are there any other tokens that prevents civing?

If you go into the legends section under adventuring you can look to see what is happening.

[dakenho]

it looks like the dragons never civ for some reason, not sure what is killing them off

are there any other tokens that prevents civing?

If you go into the legends section under adventuring you can look to see what is happening.

I do not see an adventuring section in legonds
the only things i see are
historical figures
sites
regions
civilizations and other entities
structures
historical maps
the age of myth
the age of legends
the age of heros