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toker606

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Item ownership
« on: November 15, 2009, 12:13:45 am »

Is there any way to remove ownership of items? My fortress is littered with discarded clothing and in one case a leg torn off by a zombie dragon that my dwarves will not dump due to them being owned. I'm quite house proud when it comes to my fortress and would like to tidy all this up.
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Re: Item ownership
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2009, 12:29:23 am »

Short of killing the dwarf in question? No.

However, I believe if they have a room and a cabinet they will store their spare clothing there, so that might help. Dunno if they'll gather their discarded underwear though.
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Re: Item ownership
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2009, 07:35:28 am »

Short of killing the dwarf in question? No.

However, I believe if they have a room and a cabinet they will store their spare clothing there, so that might help. Dunno if they'll gather their discarded underwear though.

Recently, I've noticed that even dead dwarves retain ownership of their items, preventing me from getting rid of the XXpig tail sandalsXX that litter my fort. Your only solution may be magma cleansing or atom smashing. Setting them on fire via dragon breath might also work.
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Re: Item ownership
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2009, 08:59:18 am »

Recently, I've noticed that even dead dwarves retain ownership of their items, preventing me from getting rid of the XXpig tail sandalsXX that litter my fort. Your only solution may be magma cleansing or atom smashing. Setting them on fire via dragon breath might also work.

I have seen this in some cases, but I have also seen something else.  I have seen a child of a dead Dwarf eventually inherit items.  It took a couple of seasons, but eventually the child of a Dwarf who had been chased to the ocean by a goblin, fallen in, and drowned, began spamming me with being unable to access owned items when trying to store them.  I checked, and sure enough, the child now owned all the sunken clothing that once belonged to its mother.  A sudden and inexplicable small volcano erupted there (using dtil) and burned up the offending items.

So, sometimes when a Dwarf dies, the items are released with no ownership.  Sometimes the ownership transfers to their child, but this is apparently a slow process.  Sometimes it seems to stay, but perhaps it is supposed to go to a spouse or child and is just delayed for a very long time?

Given that clothing is kind of broken right now, burning such things up with dtil seems to be the answer.   :D
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Re: Item ownership
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2009, 11:04:48 am »

Short of killing the dwarf in question? No.

However, I believe if they have a room and a cabinet they will store their spare clothing there, so that might help. Dunno if they'll gather their discarded underwear though.

Recently, I've noticed that even dead dwarves retain ownership of their items, preventing me from getting rid of the XXpig tail sandalsXX that litter my fort. Your only solution may be magma cleansing or atom smashing. Setting them on fire via dragon breath might also work.

Attempting atom smashing but most of the time the dwarves building the bridge move the clothing out of the way before it's completion.
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Re: Item ownership
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2009, 06:33:02 pm »

If no magma is present, or you don't want to go through the trouble of piping magma into the middle of your fort. You could presumably bucket brigate 1/7 water on the offending items to heavily accelerate wear and tear.

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Re: Item ownership
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2009, 03:05:57 pm »


Recently, I've noticed that even dead dwarves retain ownership of their items, preventing me from getting rid of the XXpig tail sandalsXX that litter my fort. Your only solution may be magma cleansing or atom smashing. Setting them on fire via dragon breath might also work.

Actually i noticed when i dwarf die slowly their belonging get in their tomb ( if they have one, and if you build a cabinet in their tomb, they will slowly put iit in cabinet ( not the dead but other dwarf will move it to others tomb if they died )

Actually i was bored so i made a massive floor with a lot of tomb for all and every single military unit and believe me or not my fort were nearly litter less after a while. As for cloth from sparring im trying using cabinet in barracks and see what happen.
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Re: Item ownership
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2009, 03:24:43 pm »

Dead dwarves only retain ownership of their items if they have been explicitly assigned to a Tomb - if they're placed in a random coffin assigned to be used for burial, all of their items either go unowned (to be claimed by other dwarves) or get inherited by a family member. In my last fort, I ordered my duke to operate a (cave-in based) suicide booth (after unassigning his tomb), and all of his stuff was immediately claimed by his consort. Once the consort was also dead, all of the items went into my finished goods stockpiles (or got claimed by random dwarves).

Changing the Forbid settings to "forbid own death items" effectively prevents any other dwarf from claiming the items (inherited items get claimed even if they're forbidden).
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Re: Item ownership
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2009, 03:40:19 pm »

The cabinet trick in the barrack didnt work they still litter the barrack BUT if they die it will clean up! isnt it wonderfull and who care if XCave spider shoeX and such doesnt goes in stockpile for other to use as long it doesnt litter the fort hehe
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Re: Item ownership
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2009, 04:28:43 pm »

You might be able to push all the discarded owned items into one pile... or a small number of piles... by building Workshops and then dismantling them again. When the items are all heaped up, atom-smash them.
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