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jerank

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xitemsx clogging my fortress!
« on: September 19, 2009, 03:37:17 pm »

I'm five years into a largeish fortress now, and to my intense annoyance I have dwarves hurling xclothesx everywhere. The barracks, the private rooms, the halls, all are covered with annoying ']'s. Hiding them just reminds me they're there, and they can't be moved or dumped as a dwarf owns them! On top of this they have the audacity to demand new clothes, then when they damage them, they thrown them down wherever they stand! In some rooms damaged clothing in a stack deep. How can I move them??
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Jim Groovester

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Re: xitemsx clogging my fortress!
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2009, 03:39:03 pm »

Give your dwarves cabinets and coffers in their rooms.

Given enough time, that should hopefully clear up most of the mess.
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Re: xitemsx clogging my fortress!
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2009, 03:39:35 pm »

Magma. The answer is always magma.
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Re: xitemsx clogging my fortress!
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2009, 04:14:31 pm »

Do cabinets and coffers have limits to their ammount of items?
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Re: xitemsx clogging my fortress!
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2009, 04:19:17 pm »

Your answer begins with M, ends with an A, and has an agm in the middle.

Otherwise, STOP MAKING THEM NEW CLOTHES. Let them be nude. I've stopped clothing production myself after watching my new =cave spider silk socks= end up discarded on stockpiles after claiming by legendaries.
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Re: xitemsx clogging my fortress!
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2009, 04:32:03 pm »

Do cabinets and coffers have limits to their ammount of items?

I'm not sure. I think there is, because in all the nobility's rooms I've ever had the floors would always be covered with their junk, even with all their cabinets and coffers.
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Re: xitemsx clogging my fortress!
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2009, 04:50:57 pm »

Your answer begins with M, ends with an A, and has an agm in the middle.

Otherwise, STOP MAKING THEM NEW CLOTHES. Let them be nude. I've stopped clothing production myself after watching my new =cave spider silk socks= end up discarded on stockpiles after claiming by legendaries.

I believe this shall be done. Otherwise I think I'll try getting rid of them with Tweak. My dwarves have never dropped below 'Very Happy' even when walking around in xxclothesxx. So I'm guessing it won't hurt to leave them naked.
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Re: xitemsx clogging my fortress!
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2009, 04:58:11 pm »

You mean there is actually a reason to make them clothes? I have yet to give them clothes in any fortress... I have enough stone for them to haul to be bothered with dwarves chasing socks around the map.
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Re: xitemsx clogging my fortress!
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2009, 05:01:21 pm »

You mean there is actually a reason to make them clothes?

Unfortunately, yes. 

Clothes have an armour value, and fairly good armour at that (esp shoes and socks).  Good enough to stop a lot of smaller creature attacks, and that adds up in layers under real armour as well.  So if you want your military at its safest, and your workers to have some chance if ambushed, you want them wearing clothes.  (Layers of robes are the (very) rough equiv of chainmail.)
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Re: xitemsx clogging my fortress!
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2009, 05:44:53 pm »

Cabinets do have a capacity limit, at least from what I've observed. Also, beware that a dwarf's personality determines how likely he is to actually store items in chests and cabinets (or even in their rooms); a dwarf which is "completely disorganized" will pretty much never put his stuff away - my last fortress had a legendary miner like this, and he also had the unfortunate characteristic of being "impulsive", meaning he had collected over 200 items and absolutely refused to put any of them away, instead leaving them to forever clutter my stockpiles.
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Re: xitemsx clogging my fortress!
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2009, 05:58:23 pm »

So personality traits affect behaviour?
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Re: xitemsx clogging my fortress!
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2009, 06:28:44 pm »

It's believed so, yes.

For instance, "Overindulges" stay on drink breaks longer and go on breaks more often.  And perhaps drink double at times.

Some of them seem to be related to how susceptible a dwarf is to going insane or throwing a tantrum, and/or what sort of tantrum they throw when they do (that is, whether they whine easily or attack a neighbor at the drop of a hat) - but these are all hard to quantify, and so are strongly suspected or accepted at face value more than provable.

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Re: xitemsx clogging my fortress!
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2009, 09:40:54 pm »

You mean there is actually a reason to make them clothes?

If you're on a freezing map, clothes are pretty much a requirement. If you let dwarves clothes rot away, they'll take damage from the cold, permanently bruising their spines and brains and hearts and guts and any other internal organ that doesn't heal. If it gets really cold, dwarves might die.

So yes, there is a reason to make clothes.

If only my goblins were smart enough to pick up the clothes I make for them instead of forcing me to enable the hunting labor and equip them all with leather armor.
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