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[Quietust]

The elves don't like it when you cut down trees and absolutely hate it when you try to trade wooden items to them, but it might make a little bit of sense if they would show some leniency toward trades of wooden items of masterpiece quality. They may cringe at the thought of one of their beloved trees being cut down and made into furniture or a craft, but for it to be made into an object of such beauty could be considered somewhat excusable.

Besides, the wooden crafts they try to trade to you are often of mediocre quality, so if you buy wood from them and make it into high quality goods, they should be thanking you rather than yelling at you (though in order to do that, they'd need to recognize that it was made from "approved" logs, and that's yet another level of complexity).

[Pilsu]

Picture your parents' reactions after someone shows how it's okay you were murdered, after all, you made for a fantastic leather jacket! Just feel the texture, how could something this smooth be wrong!?

[Quietust]

Obviously, it's okay for them to do it themselves...

Besides, they already allow you to cut down the trees (albeit a limited quantity) and they only whine if you try to trade wooden items to them - they couldn't care less if you traded them to the humans or other dwarves.

[Silverionmox]

obviously, it's okay for them to do it themselves...

I picture elven woodcraft as objects being grown in their shape, rather than cut and polished. That would give enough reason for them to distinguish approved woodcrafts from unapproved.

 Elves probably never will like (or buy) cut wood etc., but their reaction to unethical goods is a bit unproductive.. there should be pragmatic groups of elves who trade unoffending goods anyway, because that's the only way to make dwarves use them instead of the wrong ones.

[Grimlocke]

Elves probably never will like (or buy) cut wood etc., but their reaction to unethical goods is a bit unproductive.. there should be pragmatic groups of elves who trade unoffending goods anyway, because that's the only way to make dwarves use them instead of the wrong ones.

Elven displomacy is unproductive in general, from the their one-way-demands to their arrogant texts.

In fact, their merchants are often so unproductive that even when i decide to trade with them I oftenly just end up robbing them, drowning them or catapulting them off the main bridge (oh, so now you wanna leave eh? well lemme give you a little boost! mwhahaha!).

For elves to be more productive it would probably go a long way to not make them outright refuse trading after 1 mixed up wooden trinket got into some craft bin, its not like a realy need reason to kill them anyway 

[Granite26]

Elves probably never will like (or buy) cut wood etc., but their reaction to unethical goods is a bit unproductive.. there should be pragmatic groups of elves who trade unoffending goods anyway, because that's the only way to make dwarves use them instead of the wrong ones.

Elven displomacy is unproductive in general, from the their one-way-demands to their arrogant texts.

In fact, their merchants are often so unproductive that even when i decide to trade with them I oftenly just end up robbing them, drowning them or catapulting them off the main bridge (oh, so now you wanna leave eh? well lemme give you a little boost! mwhahaha!).

For elves to be more productive it would probably go a long way to not make them outright refuse trading after 1 mixed up wooden trinket got into some craft bin, its not like a realy need reason to kill them anyway 

How could you do this?  Don't you know that elves provide the valuable dwarven service of clothing removal?  And all those #$@#$ rock crafts!

[Grendus]

I just wish the elves would leave all their large rope reed clothing behind. Why the hell would a dwarf want large, worthless clothing. Most dwarves don't even wear dwarf sized clothing.

I could put up with the elves if they brought useful items like logs (can never have too many logs), wooden weapons for training, cages, food, booze, animals, barrels, raw cloth, etc. Stuff that I can use to defend the base, train new soldiers, or run industries I approve of. Large rope reed socks... not so much.

[Starver]

I just wish the elves would leave all their large rope reed clothing behind. Why the hell would a dwarf want large, worthless clothing. Most dwarves don't even wear dwarf sized clothing.

I could put up with the elves if they brought useful items like logs (can never have too many logs), wooden weapons for training, cages, food, booze, animals, barrels, raw cloth, etc. Stuff that I can use to defend the base, train new soldiers, or run industries I approve of. Large rope reed socks... not so much.

Remember how the Human/Dwarf trade liaiaiaiaiaisons[1] said they would quite like footwear, to a factor of 204% or whatever?  Want to keep all the masterworked leather boots you made to replace the existing worn out footwear (that they've not yet gotten around to claiming)?  When the elves come by, exchange a few spare rhyolite mugs for their large rope reed sock stocks and now you have some pure trade goods (like Gnomeblight, or whatever else you can't currently make use of).  Buy cheap when you can, sell high as you're able.  Do business!

[1] I have a compulsion to not stop spelling that word at the at the appropriate point...  A bit like banananananana and queueueueueue.  (Especially if it's a long queueueueueue I'm talking about.  Or, indeed banananananana.  Long liaiaiaiaisons I'm not sure about, I must admit.

[Rowanas]

Yep, it's basic economics. The fact that proper economics hasn't been implemented yet means that we don't have to bother with supply and demand, but one day it will be the most profitable/workable way to make precious money.