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elizar

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[40d9]Dog is his own mother.
« on: May 25, 2009, 07:56:23 pm »
I noticed one of my wardogs having a name, and wondered how he had gotten that. So I quit, made a copy of the save and abandoned. A search for his name gave me this:

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Two entries, one the dog, the other is... who?

Here's Cavernhandles, apparently he killed a kobold. I thought that kobolds didn't yield any name giving properties.

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Wait, he's his own mother?

Let's check the other one:

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And her mother was born the same year she was.


I know what's going on, the unnamed one is Cavernhandles mother, but this shouldn't be set up like that. I looked, and the only bugs I saw reported was about animals and legends is those unnamed animals making it into legends.
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Quote from: Magua on September 14, 2009, 02:54:41 pm
A quick scan of the stocks menu shows that one of the dead pack animals has a bin full of silk cloth!  It is speedily unforbidden, and my moody glassmaker sprints off to retrieve his prize amongst the smoking, charred, blood-soaked ruin that is the outdoors, totally oblivious to the carnage that was instigated on his behalf.

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Re: [40d9]Dog is his own mother.
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2009, 08:50:46 pm »
Sounds like this report.  Good to have some verification.
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elizar

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Re: [40d9]Dog is his own mother.
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2009, 09:07:35 pm »
Okay, so it has been reported before. Darn.

After giving it some thought, "" could perhaps not be the mother of the dog. I made the assumption because "" appeared when I searched for "Cavernhandles". But no other dog has really done anything to deserve a report in legends and survive.

Maybe this is connected to the fact that animals inbreed. Animals are their own mothers so they're not related to anyone else, thus colts can breed back to their dam for delicious foal meat production. The meat industry in DF would be much harder if inbreeding wasn't allowed.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2009, 09:09:24 pm by elizar »
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Quote from: Magua on September 14, 2009, 02:54:41 pm
A quick scan of the stocks menu shows that one of the dead pack animals has a bin full of silk cloth!  It is speedily unforbidden, and my moody glassmaker sprints off to retrieve his prize amongst the smoking, charred, blood-soaked ruin that is the outdoors, totally oblivious to the carnage that was instigated on his behalf.

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Re: [40d9]Dog is his own mother.
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2009, 11:47:29 pm »
Why would inbreeding not be allowing for livestock?  It's not an uncommon practice when breeding selectively.
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2009, 05:16:36 am »
I wasn't speaking against it. It's common in leadersheep and Arab breeding to linebreed due to their few numbers, though if the sire and dam share 50% of the genetics it's undesired. Linebreeding and inbreeding is a practice that most think only knowledgeable people should do.

My thoughts in the previous post were rather aimed at figuring out how Toady prevented inbreeding in dwarves for instance. It seems to be already countered in some other way than to track family tree, as it appears that only people from the same migrant wave do the whole romance thing. I haven't done a slacker fort, so I don't know if it is true, but I've heard it few times on the forums. I lurked for a long time before registering.
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Quote from: Magua on September 14, 2009, 02:54:41 pm
A quick scan of the stocks menu shows that one of the dead pack animals has a bin full of silk cloth!  It is speedily unforbidden, and my moody glassmaker sprints off to retrieve his prize amongst the smoking, charred, blood-soaked ruin that is the outdoors, totally oblivious to the carnage that was instigated on his behalf.

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Re: [40d9]Dog is his own mother.
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2009, 11:57:47 pm »
Quote from: elizar on May 26, 2009, 05:16:36 am
I wasn't speaking against it. It's common in leadersheep and Arab breeding to linebreed due to their few numbers, though if the sire and dam share 50% of the genetics it's undesired. Linebreeding and inbreeding is a practice that most think only knowledgeable people should do.

My thoughts in the previous post were rather aimed at figuring out how Toady prevented inbreeding in dwarves for instance. It seems to be already countered in some other way than to track family tree, as it appears that only people from the same migrant wave do the whole romance thing. I haven't done a slacker fort, so I don't know if it is true, but I've heard it few times on the forums. I lurked for a long time before registering.

well, dwarves only love once, so it's hard for inbreeding to become a problem
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Re: [40d9]Dog is his own mother.
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2009, 12:12:51 pm »
Quote from: eerr on May 31, 2009, 11:57:47 pm
Quote from: elizar on May 26, 2009, 05:16:36 am
I wasn't speaking against it. It's common in leadersheep and Arab breeding to linebreed due to their few numbers, though if the sire and dam share 50% of the genetics it's undesired. Linebreeding and inbreeding is a practice that most think only knowledgeable people should do.

My thoughts in the previous post were rather aimed at figuring out how Toady prevented inbreeding in dwarves for instance. It seems to be already countered in some other way than to track family tree, as it appears that only people from the same migrant wave do the whole romance thing. I haven't done a slacker fort, so I don't know if it is true, but I've heard it few times on the forums. I lurked for a long time before registering.

well, dwarves only love once, so it's hard for inbreeding to become a problem
little dwarves: the "other" artifact
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Re: [40d9]Dog is his own mother.
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2009, 09:19:19 pm »
Sounds like when I had a Giant Man Eating Parrot who was her own mother. She was named, but didn't have an owner or a profession.
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Quote from: Skorpion on June 01, 2009, 08:41:19 pm
And you can't eat them, either, sadly. Even though it'd make sieges so much more fun; dwarves lining the walls, drooling and carrying sharp knives and forks, ready for the upcoming meals.