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[Noble Digger]

A ton of that goes on in these forums. Caveat emptor.

[Albedo]

<nods>

I pity that fool.

I don' look Chinese, so why do they keep callin' me Foo?

[Leafsnail]

What happens if a dwarf is walking over a floodgate and it is lowered?  And how can a bridge form a wall without forming a floor above it  .

[Albedo]

Floodgates don't "lower", they just open/close, like doors or hatches.  If anything is in the way, they don't close, and that signal is lost from the lever.  (So now it has to be thrown twice more - once to reset the lever to open - the same state of the barrier - and once more to send a "close" signal - and hope it works this time.)

As for your 2nd question... I have no idea what you're envisioning.  Floor above it? It goes from a horizontal plane to a vertical plane - the same definitions as floors and walls.

 From __ to |.  (That second one would be a wall.)

[Leafsnail]

Floodgates don't "lower", they just open/close, like doors or hatches.  If anything is in the way, they don't close, and that signal is lost from the lever.  (So now it has to be thrown twice more - once to reset the lever to open - the same state of the barrier - and once more to send a "close" signal - and hope it works this time.)

As for your 2nd question... I have no idea what you're envisioning.  Floor above it? It goes from a horizontal plane to a vertical plane - the same definitions as floors and walls.

 From __ to |.  (That second one would be a wall.)

But does a dwarf fall down if he's standing on top of a closed floodgate (ie on the floor of the z level above it)?

And what I meant about the bridge is the way a 5 long bridge becomes a 1 high wall.

[Albedo]

First, let's use the correct terms - a floodgate is not a "floor" and does not make a "floor" - a floor is a floor, it's a specific construction.  <b, C, f>

Never tried, but I'm 99% sure dwarves can't stand on a floodgate, any more than they can stand on a door.

(And you really don't need to quote my entire post if you're responding right after me - I'm fairly confident any readers can follow along.  DF doesn't cause that much short-term memory loss.) 

And what I meant about the bridge is the way a 5 long bridge becomes a 1 high wall.

Um... yeah... I'm sure you have a specific question, I just can't figure out what it is, sorry.

The drawbridge when "down" forms a horizontal barrier that can be walked on and that seals channels and such.  When "up", it forms a vertical barrier that cannot be walked through and seals tunnels.

While walls (we're using the correct terms, so we're talking <b, C, w>) do form surfaces that can be walked on, I don't believe that drawbridges do when raised - again, can't remember ever trying it.

[zchris13]

So, therefor, you could fall "into" a bridge.  Which would get awkward for toady to explain.

[Time Kitten]

No, I believe you just get stuck in an unpalatable square, like with trees.

[Lymojo]

We should test this, but my gut is telling me that Dwarves CANNOT walk along the top of the wall formed by a raised drawbridge.

I recall reading something specifically to that effect on the forums about a month ago, but I can't find it now. The last post involved asking the question: "What happens if a dwarf is dropped on top of that wall? Will he path off?" I don't think anyone answered that one. I can't find it though, now, and it was a secondhand account to begin with so I can't really vouch for it.

Furthermore, there's this quote on the wiki discussion page for floodgates:
"I can dam/divert a river with floodgates... If I dig a channel 1 z-level down, then build a wall, the top is a floor I can walk across. Why isn't the top of a floodgate a floor?"

I'm assuming bridges are probably similar here, in that they're both buildings. However, this might be yet another instance in which bridges kick the shit out of floodgates.

[Deon]

"I can dam/divert a river with floodgates... If I dig a channel 1 z-level down, then build a wall, the top is a floor I can walk across. Why isn't the top of a floodgate a floor?"

Because they are not walls. The answer is obvious . Only walls form a walkable surface above them.

As with "bridges" and such, it was already answered. Trees act the same way: creatures get "stuck" above them, until you chop the tree down.

[LegoLord]

You get a floor on top of a floodgate by building a bridge over it.  Link 'em both to the same lever, see what happens.

Note:  I don't know what happens if a dwarf falls on a floodgate, the above is merely a way to get floors over them.