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decius

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Re: Underground river: where is it?
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2009, 08:11:37 pm »
Semi-related note: Underground rivers end in small bottomless pits. In what manner do they start?
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Re: Underground river: where is it?
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2009, 08:15:46 pm »
Literally from nothing. A waterfall will just appear out of solid rock, and digging out the layer of rock above and around the waterfall will just yield dry stone.
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Re: Underground river: where is it?
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2009, 09:05:20 pm »
Quote from: Osmosis Jones on May 21, 2009, 08:15:46 pm
Literally from nothing. A waterfall will just appear out of solid rock, and digging out the layer of rock above and around the waterfall will just yield dry stone.

And probably flood your fortress.
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Re: Underground river: where is it?
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2009, 09:42:38 pm »
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only need to go down maybe a half-dozen z-levels, rivers are rarely very deep.
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I think 'rarely' is an exaggeration. The dwarf heaven site has the river 23 z-levels down. I've had quite a few sites where it was near the bottom of the map.
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Re: Underground river: where is it?
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2009, 12:56:47 pm »
Quote from: SimRobert2001 on May 21, 2009, 03:44:11 am
i have an underground river somewhere on my map, and i even know the general area. is there an easy way to find it?

Here's what I do:

If you know the specific tile where the river enters, savescum a copy of your world and embark on precisely the same site with 7 miners, make some beds, and start digging one-tile wide paths around the general vicinity of that embark tile on multiple z-levels. 7 miners should be able to find it within the first season. Mark the z-level and location of the river, reload your original game and you'll know precisely where it is.

I'm very adamant (pun?) about planning around features rather than just discovering and adapting.

The technique about zooming to creatures or bones may be useful, although I haven't personally tested this one out yet. :)
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Re: Underground river: where is it?
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2009, 07:50:50 pm »
Gotta say, I'm appalled by some of the brute force and ham-fisted methods suggested here to find an UG river. It's just not that hard.

One highly skilled miner can find it in about a week all by themselves with shafts, if you paid any attention at embark.  And shafts are far more efficient, tiles dug vs tiles revealed, than any tunnel.  You also tend to crack the top, rather than the side, and so fewer unpleasant encounters - as in "none".

But whatever floats yer boat.
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