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[Sowelu]

My understanding is that the way units are saved is what causes the nemesis load errors and other related glitches, and they really ought to be loaded/saved with the rest of the save data, even if that takes up more memory.  It's worth it for all the heartaches it would save.

Considering that it's one of the most save-compat-breaking things you could ever do...well, when would a better time be?

>_>

[Zangi]

I always do that, but thats really only when I'm scumming it. 

Why else would you Ctrl+Alt+Del?  Well, I guess if you saved mid-season...  and/or don't have autosave/autobackup...

Remember to copy+paste the folder before Ctrl+Alt+Del?

[Sowelu]

If you copy the folder away while it's running, you get the same problem.

Your save folder is quietly, very slightly corrupt from the time you load a game until the time you save it and stop playing.  It is only safe to copy it away when you are not currently playing--or when it makes a seasonal backup.

[Zangi]

Huh... I've been doing all that....   and never had a problem...  ?  I usually am paused when I do that.

Can't be of help then.

[Enzo]

Huh... I've been doing all that....   and never had a problem...  ?  I usually am paused when I do that.

Can't be of help then.

It's possible that the nemesis simply hasn't struck...yet. Be very afraid!
IMHO I wouldn't be surprised if Toady doesn't fix it, as it's only an issue if you're save scumming, and you can work around it by simply backing up the region folder whenever you save (which only requires a tiny bit of foresight, and takes my computer all of about 5 seconds).

[Aquillion]

It's possible that the nemesis simply hasn't struck...yet. Be very afraid!
IMHO I wouldn't be surprised if Toady doesn't fix it, as it's only an issue if you're save scumming

No, it also causes problems whenever your game crashes.

[Sowelu]

Or whenever you lose power.

[Enzo]

Touché. I forgot about that due to my laptop having a battery and not crashing lately. But that would be pretty damn annoying.

[Aquillion]

Huh.  According to Toady here, it's been fixed for a long time now...

I vaguely recall something like that, now that I think about it.  It backs up your save when you start playing, and doesn't overwrite it until you quit.  So currently CTRL-ALT-DEL or crashing or whatever is perfectly safe as long as it doesn't happen during a save (well, you lose everything since your last save, but that's obvious...  and probably intentional, with CTRL-ALT-DEL.)

[Draco18s]

Huh.  According to Toady here, it's been fixed for a long time now...

I vaguely recall something like that, now that I think about it.  It backs up your save when you start playing, and doesn't overwrite it until you quit.  So currently CTRL-ALT-DEL or crashing or whatever is perfectly safe as long as it doesn't happen during a save (well, you lose everything since your last save, but that's obvious...  and probably intentional, with CTRL-ALT-DEL.)

QFTMFT.

This is actually the second thread on this request SINCE it was added in.

[profit]

* Thinks a thread lock on a problem that no longer exists would be a good thing =)

[Sowelu]

Yeah...Okay, my bad.

So where are the nemesis errors coming from NOW?  o.o

[Tahin]

I suggest you post your save up so Toady can take a look... That really shouldn't be happening.

[Footkerchief]

I suggest you post your save up so Toady can take a look... That really shouldn't be happening.

Posting an already-corrupted save hasn't been useful for tackling this problem.  If you could find an uncorrupted save that gets corrupted in a reproducible manner, that would be useful.  However, I don't know of any way to identify a corrupted save (note that saves are usually corrupted long before the Nemesis Unit Load Error actually appears).