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[jaked122]

I would enjoy(NEED) to have the dwarven tower beacon to attract enemies(batman, goblins, etc)

[Guy Montag]

I hate to ruin all the support for this idea, but in real life, underground locations, especially working mines, are almost always unbearably hot. Ever been in a coal mine? its like 120 degrees down there with 102% humidity. Workers in underground locations get heat illnesses all the time working down there, the mechanical equipment, explosives and people's body heat has no where to go and, the deeper you go the warmer it gets.

Hate to say it, but the last thing somebody actually living underground would want is a fireplace or a stove. Not to mention how unwanted the risks of underground fires, carbon monoxide and smoke can be in such a contained enviroment.

Having any source of magma or workshops burning wood or coal in a fortress would easily heat the entire fortress up, even with ventilation, even under a glacier.

Interesting idea, but I'd say the humans living in their thin wooden shacks would have better use for a fireplace more then any dwarf living in an underground fortress.

[SirHoneyBadger]

That's different due to the depths involved, and the methods. I've been in both mines and caves, and it's not always hot, or even warm.

So yeah, it can be unnecessary in some places, but not always.

[sonerohi]

It doesn't really get hot until after 10 meters down. Then, hoo boy, it starts heating up. Ever been in one of those tourism caves that opens up straight into the hillside, instead of a mineshaft? Pretty chilly. I'd imagine that with wind ventilating better causes it to be cooler.

[chucks]

Agreed.  Mines and underground excavations are hot due to a lack of air circulation.  If you're chiselling out a fortress from rock, and you carve out chimneys to the surface and airflow systems, you willd need to have a system both to heat and cool the fortress.  However, that would be one nasty balancing acting requiring some strange dwarven thermostate system, probably made from water wheel perpentual motion machines and triggered with mechanical logic using pressure plates.

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[SirHoneyBadger]

chucks: In other words, entirely appropriate to DF?