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[LegoLord]

I repeat. Conservatives are dumb.

We need a slogan!

Not all of them, but the ones doing those tea-parties sure are.  For one thing, the original Tea Party in Boston was a protest against the taxes against tea without representation for the colonists.  The original Tea Party of Charleston, SC was even better, because they stole the tea, sold it, and used the money to buy ammunition and weapons.  Unfortunately, the British were closing in on them, and they had to hide it in the walls of a building that the British eventually used as a base of operations.  But the point remains, the modern Tea Parties are wasteful and pointless.  Seriously, what good is dumping a bunch of tea going to do now?

[mainiac]

And even better level of irony is when you compare the policies the original Boston Tea Party were protesting to what's being protested today.  The original Tea Party was prompted by the British Crown lowering tarrifs levied on the tea of the East India Tea Company.  In a nutshell, it was protest against tax cuts for the wealthy.

Centuries later, the name has been appropriated by those protesting in support of tax cuts for the wealthy.

It's so nice to see them give such weight to the legacy of the founding fathers.

[Aqizzar]

And then there's Glenn Beck, who thought the most thematically appropriate place to set up his Entirely Sponsored By FOX News reporting kiosk was the Alamo.  The freaking Alamo.

One, completely wrong war dumbass.

Two, the whole shtick of the Alamo was that it was a hopeless stand that was wiped out to the last man.  (Well, seven men and women actually, but you get the point.)

Third, that had nothing to do with taxation or government representation.  It was a bunch of WASPy criminals and squatters who settled in Mexican territory under generous regulation, and decided that no authority could be as generous as no authority at all, and started a war secession from Mexico.

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Tea-bags into "Teabagging".
What would we do to get them to say "Suck D***"?

[LegoLord]

Fact:  The right to secession was one of the conditions for Texas entering the Union.  They wanted that right secure, because all the other states at the time (post civil war period) didn't have that right and the Texan (sp?) government was uncertain about how good of an idea it was.

Apparently, at the Tea Party in Texas, they started chanting "secede, secede, . . ."

[Aqizzar]

Fact:  The right to secession was one of the conditions for Texas entering the Union.  They wanted that right secure, because all the other states at the time (post civil war period) didn't have that right and the Texan (sp?) government was uncertain about how good of an idea it was.

That fact is not true at all.  Yes, Texas wanted to be able to secede if it didn't like being a state.  Since Texas was already a sovereign country in it's own right, it had some good claim to this.

But the United States put the kibosh on any idea of secession with the Civil War.  Laws only mean anything as far as they can be enforced; sovereignty means only what you can make stick.  So the idea is, yeah, a state can try seceding, and the US government can try to kick it's ass in retaliation.  What do you think would happen?

However, there is the slightest truth to the idea of redefinition, in that when Texas joined the union pre-Civil War, part of the agreement was that Texas could split into as many as five states.  But they would all still be part of the union.  And it could only be done prior to the actual incorporation.  And the Civil War and Texas's reincorporation afterward effectively nullified that treaty, even if it had sill meant anything.