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[Fensfield]

Simple question, really.  If I reclaim a fortress, on a map where I discovered a bottomless pit and a cave river, would the cave spider/silk and tower cap/underground flora flags still be activated, or would the map no longer generate these things after I reclaim?

S'just, I seem to have triggered a glitch that's jammed the merchants on my map, and might lead to the starvation of all my dwarves >.>;  And the whole point of this fortress involves cave flora ( Orbglades - you figure it out ).

[ThtblovesDF]

Caps should grow btw.

[Fensfield]

Pardon?  Was that a 'yes, the cave flora flag should remain active if you reclaim, so you'll still get tower caps next time' or... what? ^^;

[Refar]

I know, that Magma Buildings are not triggered buildable on Reclaim, because the magma is visible from the start, so there is no "Discovered Magma" event. So i guess there will be no "Uderground River Found" either, and probably no Tower caps.

[Fensfield]

Ooooh dear... x.x

Well, thanks then - although it's curious that magma buildings are available with volcanoes on first embarkation, since those are always visible from start bar freezing (right?).

Still, the stuck merchants have yet to go mad...

[Fensfield]

They all died due to a freezing incident >.>

And there's no way of forcibly re-triggering these things?  Including small cheats like memory hacks or suchlike?

[LegoLord]

I know, that Magma Buildings are not triggered buildable on Reclaim, because the magma is visible from the start, so there is no "Discovered Magma" event. So i guess there will be no "Uderground River Found" either, and probably no Tower caps.

WRONG!
If magma is visible on embark, you get no message, but you can make magma forges.

[Fensfield]

Eh?  So then, it's Not clear that I won't have my tower caps, underground fauna, and cave spiders, if I reclaim?  I might still get them? o.o;

Because I'm going to have to.  Something glitched in the merchants and they haven't left for two years, nor others come.  As such, no liaison, and no immigrants, so... not to mention my two surviving dwarves are as good as dead, too.

[Refar]

The guy shouting "wrong" probably did not read or did not get, that the thread is about reclaiming. Or whatever;

I myself can only repeat\refrase what i said before:
You can't build magma stuff on reclaim, if magma was discovered before; Never actually tried \ paid attention to what happen to underground fauna; But by analogy to magma i guess it wont work either.


But since you are going to have to reclaim anyway, we will soon know for sure

[Fensfield]

True, true... I'll post answer when I know.

Reclaiming now ( having made a final lever link to a temporary farming point )

[Fensfield]

Well, I don't know if it's because I floored them off when I first found them...

But the Chasm is un-discovered, as is the cave river.  No idea if rediscovery will trigger underground flora, etc, but I have high hopes.  The already exposed volcano is not allowing magma buildings though.. but I think there's a utility to fix that?

EDIT: Well, digging down to the features a second time caused them to appear on the map.  And, in the case of the underground river, the screen jumped to it.  However, neither flashed up a message window.

[Refar]

There are tools on the Wiki (http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Utilities), it was some time ago, but i seem to remember, that Gibbed's tweak worked for me once.

Let us know, if Cave Spiders and Tower Cups show up, once you know