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Alexhans

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Re: most liberal conservitive ever
« Reply #45 on: January 21, 2009, 10:44:26 am »

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George bush never stomped on individual rights

Someone said this I can't remember when... but.... WHAT!!!!???? Are you serious? All he did was justify that there can't be Antiterrorism with so many individual rights... theyre an obstacle... let's remove some... in the name of national security... who cares... we make the rules... if cuba or irak or any of our foes did what we do... but... whos gonna do anything about it? the UN??? dont make me laugh...

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Re: most liberal conservitive ever
« Reply #46 on: January 21, 2009, 10:52:21 am »

It all boils down (pun intended) to the boiled frog analogy.

If you put the frog into boiling water, the frog will jump away. However, if you slowly raise the temperature one degree at a time to the boiling point, the frog will just sit there comfortably until it is completely safe from terrorism.
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Re: most liberal conservitive ever
« Reply #47 on: January 21, 2009, 04:27:03 pm »

That would be an awesome game, none the less.

Several starting points, from being a disillusioned white-collar worker who wants to shake the world, to the poor Afghani boy whose father was killed by the Americans.

It'd be epic if done right. From picking up your first gun, to demanding ransom from the UN.

I've been thinking about this. I doubt I'll get any approval from Johnatan S. Fox to attempt to modify the LCS game to support a 'realistic view', because it may very well promote insurgencies. However, here's some things that I could see:

1) No consitutional amendment that will end the game. Even if the general public embraces C+ ideals, the resistance will still continue, altough its days would be likely be numbered.
2) Different forms of Governments need to be modeled. A military dictator will likely rule by decree and any elections would be rigged, altough public opinon will likely play a role in changing views, and an unpopular dictator may be forced to hand over power to a democracy.
3) Sleepers need to be nerfed, heavily. This isn't A Force More Powerful here.
4) You cannot brainwash the enemy. Instead, you can interrogate them to get a map of an area, and hold them hostage for either the release of a person in jail or for money.
5) Committing crimes no longer affect the Issues as much as it would in a vanilla LCS game. Shutting down buildings on the other hand...
6) The power of lawyers need to be nerfed.
7) Victory conditions are very different. For example, the poor Afghani boy whose father was killed by the Americans only want the Americans to get out. All he has to do is cause enough violence and mayhem that the Americans themselves decide to declare victory and get out. The poor Afghani boy wins.

However, the generic radical terror group in Afghanistan wants to take over Afghanistan. Kicking the Americans out is a noble goal, but it's merely a means to an end. They have to not only convince the Americans to cut and run, but they have to convince (or coerce) the general population to agree with their own views and destroy once and for all the rival warlords. The terror group's mission is much harder than the Afghani boy's mission.

The disgruntled white-collar worker wants to have his voice be heard. Depending on how extreme the white-collar worker is, he may desire to overthrow the entire government, or he may simply be seeking a seat at the political table. If the latter, then his goal is to force the government to agree to a power-sharing agreement, with the disgruntled white-collar worker.

This is a wish list, so I don't expect everything here to be possible to implemented.
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Re: most liberal conservitive ever
« Reply #48 on: January 21, 2009, 07:12:57 pm »

I have never seen such disorder, and quite frankly bad audience, if you actually believe what is said in LCS that you can all go to hell and burn for eternity for your folly, I did this due to what needs to be corrected about george bush. George Bush is going to be remebered forever as a total looser and nutjob not because of what he did, but because of people like you, I can tolerate so much SHIT from liberal propaganda, and lately I've had it, I cannot even begin to understand why all you people could ever have so many false reasons to hate him, and I quite frankly believe that many of you get your news from the national inquirer instead of NPR, AM radio, or even tv.

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Re: most liberal conservitive ever
« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2009, 09:06:05 pm »

/sigh

Didn't want to have to say it, and hopefully I don't, actually, but better safe than sorry. So...

DNFTT.
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Re: most liberal conservitive ever
« Reply #50 on: January 21, 2009, 10:35:56 pm »

Hrm, we've got a report on this thread, and though it's mostly harmless, there's still some antagonism, so I'm going to lock it.  Since some of the stridency is coming from the OP, it's difficult to edit it or otherwise salvage it.  You can take the good parts and try again if you like, though if it's strictly politics it might fare better in nonsense if it's possible it can fare well at all.  I haven't had time to read through all the LCS threads, so if this kind of argument is common here, then I'm sorry for sticking my nose in, but if people want to discuss, they should do so politely.
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