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Akett

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My Dwarves are walking on water!
« on: January 16, 2009, 02:57:56 am »

My Dwarves are walking over a 7/7 brook like it's ground!  I'm not even kidding, they just walk right over it, not even getting damp!  I didn't play with the raws or anything and bam, walking on water!

What the hell?
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Mook

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Re: My Dwarves are walking on water!
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2009, 03:02:44 am »

I'm not sure exactly how it works, but apparently the code doesn't allow natural running water sources to remain localized on one z-level, so you have brooks which are walkable but which also have a portion one z-level below.  Incidentally this means you can build roads and other constructions on top of a brook without any issues, even though it's technically a water source.
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Akett

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Re: My Dwarves are walking on water!
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2009, 03:04:10 am »

So that bridge I built was just wasted logs?  Well thanks for the clearup.
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Mook

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Re: My Dwarves are walking on water!
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2009, 03:05:57 am »

Yep, bridges are only needed for actual rivers.  You can usually tell the difference by the water color, or by he bloodthirsty fish which inhabit rivers, but not brooks.
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Akett

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Re: My Dwarves are walking on water!
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2009, 03:07:16 am »

Wait, there are no fish in brooks?
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Re: My Dwarves are walking on water!
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2009, 03:09:22 am »

IMHO, a brook is something like this:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/88/256181388_6894f7f265.jpg
So it can be crossed freely with no swimming, and it still can be 7/7 deep.
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Re: My Dwarves are walking on water!
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2009, 03:14:27 am »

Wait, there are no fish in brooks?
There are no creature fish (ie: the deadly kind, the carp) but there are vermin fish, which you can fish and eat.
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Yah, it sounds like minecraft with content, you have obviously missed the point, people dont like content, they like different coloured blocks.
Seems to work fine with my copy. As soon as I loaded the human caravan came by and the world burst into fire.

Akett

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Re: My Dwarves are walking on water!
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2009, 03:15:46 am »

Thanks for the info.
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Pilsu

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Re: My Dwarves are walking on water!
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2009, 03:32:10 am »

Note, digging out the surface breaks the brook. Water will still flow but no fish respawn and dwarves will go to the map edge to drink. Well, that was my experience in 38c anyway. Or was it 39..
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Akett

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Re: My Dwarves are walking on water!
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2009, 03:39:43 am »

Digging out the surface?  Like channeling directly off the brook?
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Samyotix

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Re: My Dwarves are walking on water!
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2009, 08:54:20 am »

Akett: it is possible to dig a channel right through, or across, a brook. Doing so removes the blue-ish "walk on water" Brook tile and makes the square a normal pond/river tile. And apparently breaks dwarven pathfinding ...
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Re: My Dwarves are walking on water!
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2009, 01:31:04 pm »

>.> I'm pretty sure I've lost dwarves to carp in a brook with walkable tiles.

I could be mistaken, but I know I've never embarked on anything larger than a brook, and I've seen pages of 'carp has been frozen to death' messages from winter...

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Re: My Dwarves are walking on water!
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2009, 02:17:19 pm »

Yeah, brooks are essentially natural grates.

Just think of a rocky mountain stream just big enough to have fish, but rocky enough so you can hop over the rocks.
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