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[chaoticag]

I just want to know, is there a time limit on seiges?
Do conservatives try to break in?
Do they just leave when tired?

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Abandoned Stone Paper Mill, Nov. 22, 2008                         Money: $35996

 You are not under siege...  yet.

 FORTIFIED COMPOUND            PRINTING PRESS
 CAMERAS ON          BOOBY TRAPS         TANK TRAPS          GENERATOR
 5360 Daily Rations           13 Eating           412 Days of Food Left

 I - Invest in this location            TAB - Next Squad   Z - Next Location
I hope I didn't waste all that money...

[Servant Corps]

Um. Yeah, you, er, did waste all that money.

Now, sieges are useful because you get postive press when a Elite Liberal reporter sneaks in and get your side of the story.

That's the only good thing in a siege. Everything else is pure horror.

I have never been in a siege. I do know that you can decide at any time to 'break' a siege, either by escaping or killing off the siegers. Otherwise, you get holed up in that Paper Mill and just eat food until you run out and you have to break said siege.

And don't give up to any Organizations other than Fireman and Police Officer. All other Organizations will kill you guys outright.

[chaoticag]

You would expect that people will get tired of waiting a year and a half for people to come out...

[Servant Corps]

Yeah, but that's why the siegers attempt to wear you down by using sniper fire and (in the case of the CCS, car bombings). They got you pinned, they'll shoot your men down.

[beorn080]

Breaking sieges is easy if you mass your people and give everyone a .45. Its changing soon, but 60 liberals, even untrained, can kill 6 soldiers first turn. Admitedly, waiting sieges out sucks because of random killings, but they aren't that bad.

[chaoticag]

I'm trying not to make headlines, So far my founder and random dude #! were the only survivors of a merc raid. Turned myself into the police, and got off both absurdly small charges with a not guilty (hackers died).

[EuchreJack]

Sieges don't go away.  I had the Angry Masses wait 10 years for a Liberal to leave prison, just so they could raid the Homeless Shelter.  It wasn't pretty.  Even worse, your sleepers get drawn into the fight, and it's the ones at the top of the recruitment list.  In the future, I'll probably make my first page of sleepers brainwashed, just to keep the recruiters a bit safer.

[Servant Corps]

I think it might be a good idea, in any future Pacifist Runs, not to release any 'special issues', at least until I get "Diplomacy" implemented. Merely writing in the Liberal Guardian and having sleepers is more than enough to sway society in your direction, the Special Issues provide a 50% boost in only a couple of issues at best, which, in a Liberal society, would likely be fairly useless.

And the costs of printing a Special Issue, being sieged, is not worth the effort.

EDIT: As of now, the only way to make Organizations angry is to air their dirty laundry. Killing innocent civilans, blowing up secret HQs, having sleeper within their ranks, that's alright. But printing that a CEO made an off-hand remark about how foriegn sweatshops are awesome? That's crossing the line.

[EuchreJack]

Trust me, it's easier than that to get raided...

[Jonathan S. Fox]

I think the only other way is if you get caught kidnapping certain Arch-Conservatives, that might also rile up their associated faction. Dragging a screaming radio personality out of the AM Radio building with your bare hands is almost guaranteed to get you an eventual angry masses raid, for example.

[mainiac]

People still kidnap without using weapons?

[Servant Corps]

Kidnapping with a weapon causes you to gain no juice. If you kidnap without a weapon, the enemy usually struggle with you for a few turns before being kidnapped, thereby gaining you some juice.

[EuchreJack]

Thanks Jonathan, I think that's exactly what caused me to get raided by the Mob of Angry Citizens (rednecks).