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[pisskop]

It is old enough tp share a drink with

[Frumple]

Eh... the forum's been updated in the last decade, even if the entire thing's been around for a while. Probably just the hosting service having hiccups or a cache needing to be cleared out manually or somethin'. It happens occasionally, the relevant admin fiddles with something and it goes back to normal.

[Magmacube_tr]

Am I... white?

[pisskop]

Well youre whatever you self identify as, sfaict

If you were to apply to a job and say you were native american or hispanic would they call you out or would the polices get mad?

can you catch a fraud case for claiming a minority status?  what about affirmative action type stuff where you get bonus points or access to a special lottery?

but for the purposes of if you're being honest w/yourself i think its a cultural thing more than a racial trait.  do you celebrate or is that culture/status somehow a part of your life

[Magmacube_tr]

Well youre whatever you self identify as, sfaict

If you were to apply to a job and say you were native american or hispanic would they call you out or would the polices get mad?

can you catch a fraud case for claiming a minority status?  what about affirmative action type stuff where you get bonus points or access to a special lottery?

but for the purposes of if you're being honest w/yourself i think its a cultural thing more than a racial trait.  do you celebrate or is that culture/status somehow a part of your life

Ugh... I was setting up a joke, dude! I know what "being white" is. And I am not white, obviously.

Y'all really should have gotten used to my tomfuckery by now.

[Frumple]

please don't molest the cats D:

[Magmacube_tr]

please don't molest the cats D:

...Don't tell me what to do...

[hector13]

I mean… if you can pass as white you’ll probably get socioeconomic benefits for doing so, because the world is a stupid place.

You did also encourage me to look up people who have been racial impostors.

I get non-whites pretending to be white, because why deal with racism if you don’t have to, but there have been white people who have pretended to be non-white, because white folk clearly haven’t taken enough yet.

[delphonso]

Supposedly, the first black baseball player in the US was William White, who was light skinned and lived his life as a white dude.

[voliol]

Race is a social construct, and a recent shoddy one that doesn't even hold up to other social constructs like gender or ethnicity. It was invented to justify slavery and genocide in the Americas, and then became the favorite tool of all imperialism.

As for whether you are a member of any given "race", there are two ways to look at it. One is self-identification, which is as easy as it sounds: you get to choose for yourself. The other is how others look at you, and this is where racism comes into play. Depending on whether they view you and traits you inhibit as belonging to one "race" or another, they may treat you more or less favourably.

The clincher is that that too is a matter of identification, an arbitrary process. If you don't look the way people expect, racism might work contrary to its expected association with ethnicity. The William White example above would be a case of this. Also, because external identification is done by individuals, definitions of "races" may vary from person to person, group to group. I might be misremembering, but I believe the Oscars were praised by Americans a couple of years ago for including more persons of color among its nominees. The "issue" being that one of these nominees were an actor of no more complicated ethnicity than being from Spain. To said Americans, he was hispanic, and thus a person of color. To the actor himself, and many Spanish like him, he was clearly not.

So to answer your question, Magmacube, um, I have no idea. It ought to vary depending on who you ask, so maybe if you're very curious how other people view you a big survey could be of use. Or you could just go for the self-identification route and be satisfied with that.